Actually yanmega does bot slaughter due to being behind a sub and most mega absol having fire blast it can easily deal with it and most people would never switch yanmega in as most mega absol have SD and the dragonfly can not take a +2 SP
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XY UU Beta Discussion (Read post #32)
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Exactly. Literally this morning I made a new team with diggersby, and Hydreigon is on my other team. Seriously though, Weavile? He can't use both of his new stabs at the same time and dies to priority and fighters. He seemed really balanced to me
Been running a stall team for a bit, meaning that Kyurem not being banned while Diggersby (admittedly tough to wall, but not too hard) and Weavile (Aggron lols at it erryday) did get the boot is kinda meh to me. Idk what makes Weavile supposedly banworthy anywaym but whatever, it'll get unbanned during the tests imo. Good thing Cham and Voir got banned though, hated trying to wall these things (had Doublade for Megacham I suppose, but Mega Garde (especially with CM) takes a shit on stall teams no questions asked)
Now ban Kyurem and Hydreigon :o
Now ban Kyurem and Hydreigon :o
Well Weavile could still use Ice Punch + Knock Off, which was honestly all it needed. Icicle Crash has 10 more BP and a flinch chance but the accuracy can be costly anyway. I can remotely understand why Weavile can be deemed broken but still...
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yea but absol outspeeds without a speed boost and most absols are non Sub just sd so it would not want to switch also i dont even think yanmega can take a SP after SR.
Weavile being banned surprises me a lot, since it's not significantly more potent than last generation. Knock Off sucks, but it's still frail and it still has almost hard counters in defensive pokemon that can take a +2 hit. Mega Aggron laughed all day, most bulky waters still fared well enough.
Although I love to use it and it's my coveted stallbreaker, I think Kyurem should have been banned, since it's nearly as potent as Kyurem-B. It lacks the ability to smash things with physical attacks without investment, but a set of Outrage / Draco Meteor / Ice Beam / Earth Power is very effective at breaking physical and special walls. It's much more manageable in comparison to the unadulterated brokenness that was Kyurem-B, but it's still got great coverage, huge power from both sides of the spectrum, and ridiculous bulk with a decent typing.
But I'm happy with the other 4 bans, since, even if a few of them could be dealt with, they made the metagame less fun. With the megas remaining, I expect Blastoise, Aggron, and Absol to take up most of the usage.
Although I love to use it and it's my coveted stallbreaker, I think Kyurem should have been banned, since it's nearly as potent as Kyurem-B. It lacks the ability to smash things with physical attacks without investment, but a set of Outrage / Draco Meteor / Ice Beam / Earth Power is very effective at breaking physical and special walls. It's much more manageable in comparison to the unadulterated brokenness that was Kyurem-B, but it's still got great coverage, huge power from both sides of the spectrum, and ridiculous bulk with a decent typing.
But I'm happy with the other 4 bans, since, even if a few of them could be dealt with, they made the metagame less fun. With the megas remaining, I expect Blastoise, Aggron, and Absol to take up most of the usage.
With most fearsome knock off users like bisharp and weavile gone, there's fewer pokemon left to abuse knock off. So I think the discussion about knock off is irrelevent. Though crawduant is powerfull, It's slow. Even though knock off is still the most spammable move in UU, with the two of the main three users, weavile and bisharp gone, I think chansey, porygon-2 and other eviolite users will rise in usage. Go porygon-2!
Here here!!! With every ban, stall becomes better and betterYesss.. ban everything that stands in the way of stall.
Pikachuun
the entire waruda machine
Adrian Marin would approve.
Pikachuun
the entire waruda machine
Give it until March. We'll probably have gone through at least 3 more suspect tests (and by extension bans) by then.
Don't worry koko, I love banning entire metagames too (:3=
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Banned deucer.
Can someone please help me with teambuilding in the battle maison? I dunno where else to place this.
Why did any of these 5 things even get put up for a ban? What even uses Sticky Web and is remotely good? Is Scald actually even close to broken or is it just still annoying like it has always been? Why is Stealth Rock actually getting discussed for an UU ban, is there any actual reason as to why or is it just too ubiquitous? What makes something like Hawlucha even close to broken? Why is Toxic Spikes actually on here when it has never been even remotely a problem anywhere else in the history of Pokemon?
I really hope this means the bans aren't getting really lenient, as there are already a ton of BL stuff (16 is around as much as the post Gen III BLs combined and it seems like quite a few more is going to be added in the future) Seeing something like Toxic Spikes or Stealth Rock on a potential banning list makes me worried that UU will be robbing lower tiers that may really need these moves.
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I just love when people get worked up over stuff that didn't actually happen lol
Also, just for the record, it has never been, and it never will be, the concern of an upper tier to cater to what a lower tier needs or wants--not that RU even knows what it needs or wants since it doesn't even exist.
Also, since people still seem to not get it, bans are SUPPOSED to be really lenient under this system.
Also, just for the record, it has never been, and it never will be, the concern of an upper tier to cater to what a lower tier needs or wants--not that RU even knows what it needs or wants since it doesn't even exist.
Also, since people still seem to not get it, bans are SUPPOSED to be really lenient under this system.
Swamp-Rocket, I don't think we really need to worry about stuff like Toxic Spikes getting banned. They were only nominated because some council members are silly, and I think that pretty much everything that was possibly broken has been banned. The main 3 remaining suspects that I think could be problematic are Haxorus, Hydreigon, and Kyurem, but they're all manageable, and once UU goes out of beta we can work on retesting all of the bans back in. I expect Thundurus and Weavile to be unbanned fairly easily, while the rest are a mixed bag of controversial (Medichamite, Diggersby) and oh hell no (Kyurem-B, Landorus).
Weavile banned? welp, so much for my anti meta post
kokoloko, just wondering, when are we looking at UU going official and retesting stuff back in?
I guess everything will be re-tested so there is still hope for some "questionable" bans.
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