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won in 2 ggs
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-2120949421-zs5tpmzv3ifsljiuu4avmdlohbv85r7pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-2120959096-ksirp0wdt0ii0hnvtowjsnyuix8dkzrpw
ty for putting up with my timezone and whatnot
won in 2 ggs
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-2107584580-txb3fng3vyo78ecll2b3fr1vqd1syu3pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-2107589282-57v44ri2q5ofwffz1ifcpifnxehn65wpw
I believe that removing spikes (and scald too but that seems unlikely) might be the most beneficial thing for the tier at this point. I don't think there's a single metagame issue brought up in this thread that isn't greatly exasperated by the presence of spikes and given the lack of consensus...