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Well, you are incorrect, my post accounted for it. Otherwise Honchkrow wouldn't even get a hit off, obviously. Honchkrow doesn't OHKO Talon with Sucker Punch, not even banded. I also pointed out I accounted for it a few posts up... anyway, whatever. Talonflame is quite exceptional in todays...

He mentioned something about his Trick Room team so I assume that the battle conditions involve trick room in effect, hence why Honchkrow would possibly go before Talon.

Nobody is saying or has said Talonflame is invincible, just that it may or may not be overhyped. We are arguing that the hype for Talonflame is well deserved. Your argument about calculations not applying to actual combat is baffling. If you add animations to a calculator, you have Pokemon...

Oh now what is this nonsense. GameFreak screwed up. Elgyem/Beheeyem can learn Steel Wing. This is likely because TM51 (Steel Wing) was Ally Switch back in Gen 5.

SR - Yes, certainly a strong answer given its main weakness is rock. Rock types - not so much. If rock-types are anti-talonflame, then you pair talonflame with an anti-rock pokemon. Tyranitar, meet Dugtrio. Electric type, meet Dugtrio. This is why I'm a big supporter of TalonTrio. But this...

Why would any other pokemon need to be confirmed to pass down the move once the move itself is known to be passable? Any pokemon in the field egg group that can learn sucker punch by any means can pass it to Tepig. Speaking of egg moves, have we managed to get Baby-Doll Eyes OUT of the field...

You lose a pokemon just to force a switch? Jesus christ you don't rank high in competitive battles do you?

You mean a tier with no real rules or restrictions? We already have an Ubers tier. What little rules remain are largely irrelevant in the context of the advice and movesets given, I'd say.... people hate playing there because of seeing broken things like uber legendaries or even Blaziken and...

The 'variables' like correct prediction favors Khan though. An incorrect prediction is likely not going to cost Khan its life, at worst it will force a switch. An incorrect prediction by the opponent could cost the match once the one pokemon that had any hope of stopping it ends up getting...

You really don't know what you're talking about though. The ban system assumes the pokemon in question are being used by high-ranked players against equally skilled high-ranked players. I know a girl who is absolutely retarded when it comes to pokemon, and an Arceus in her hands should...

EQ doesn't trigger Rocky Helmet or Barbs, so either way, Fire Blast or EQ will result in no recoil damage if used on a predicted switch in, and naturally both would have suffered the 60% hp loss after using PuP or Crunch on the switch-in. Most priority will not outspeed Khan's own priority, and...

Uh, what? The fire blast part I'll give you, but when Mega Khan has only a small handful of counters, why would you NOT want to build the rest of its team around those counters to secure victory?

Ghosts are not a safe switch in. Team Preview will give away the fact that you have ghosts so right away the odds of successful prediction are in favor of the Khan player. You keep saying 'you' don't have any problem with Mega Khan... did you ever stop to think you don't actually play at a...

It doesn't matter how well it works in Ubers. So there goes your first paragraph. 'Multitude of options'. Sticky Web, first of all, is a restrictive option thanks to it having miserable distribution with arguably no worthwhile pokemon learning it. Stealth Rock only does neutral damage to it...

It's really not like that.. its got 125 base attack with a choice band equipped that doesn't lock it into one move and breaks sturdy/sash/subs. Steel types are just letting it power-up punch it to death while also giving it boosts, crunch hits just about everything neutrally, even steels now...

Even moreso than this, the pokemon one could viably switch into Khan in the first place are VERY predictable (i.e. ITS A GHOST) and attacking with Crunch is just so safe, with the only pokemon you'd otherwise not want to hit being justified pokemon, but that in itself can be obvious or even...

Your opinion is factually wrong. I'd take the time to read this thread a little more thoroughly, or maybe even get some actual competitive scene experience before comparing things like Mega Kangaskhan to Azumarill, Mega Mawile or... wow.. Diggersby... really? Really?

This is entirely wrong though. Only a couple of the Megas are ban-worthy. MGeng and MKhan are the most obvious examples and are worthy of a quickban, a couple more are debatable like MLuke and will likely see suspect testing, and the rest are pretty standard fare... some are even honestly bad...

So basically you admit to being bad at competitive battling then.

lol so much lol even I had a better first post than this. None of what you claim to be 'hard counters' hasn't already been fully discussed and soundly defeated... not to mention you're thinking of something like Fake Out/PuP/SP/EQ and then ignoring things like scrappy Khan, or the fact that a...