Iron Ball

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Description: Cuts the holder's Speed by 50%; negates the Levitate ability from holder; makes Flying-type holders susceptible to Ground-type moves, Arena Trap, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes.

We know this item from last generation. We all know what it does. Or… what it should do, at least.

From the Research Thread:

Doryuuzu used Earthquake!

Gengar + Iron Ball - Super Effective
Skiploom + Iron Ball - Neutral
Shedinja + Iron Ball - Blocked by Wonder Guard

I think Iron Ball + non-Flying type Ground immunity acts as expected. If the target is a Flying type, the attack does neutral damage regardless of the Pokemon's other type.
What should happen if something like Moltres (x2) or Masquerain (x½) uses Roost or/and is affected by Gravity as it holds an Iron Ball?

What effect would take precedence, if any?
My Moltres with Iron Ball got super effective damage(2x) from ground moves after Roost or/and Gravity. As such Roost/Gravity take precendence.

To summarize, if a Pokémon with Levitate holds an Iron Ball, it will work as it did last generation. But, if a Pokémon whose secondary Type is Flying holds an Iron Ball, Earthquake with hit for regular damage regardless of the primary Type of said Pokémon. Roost or/and Gravity apparently "override" this effect and the Pokémon in question behaves as it "should".

Now, let's see which Pokémon are affected by this:

Butterfree
Scyther
Ledyba
Ledian
Hoppip
Skiploom
Jumpluff
Yanma
Yanmega
Beautifly
Masquerain
Ninjask
Tropius
Mothim
Combee
Vespiquen
Sky Shaymin


Charizard
Zubat
Golbat
Crobat
Aerodactyl
Zapdos
Moltres
Skarmory
Ho-Oh
Spin Rotom
Aaken
Aakeosu
Emonga
Vorutorosu


Will this affect the combination of Trick + Iron Ball? Will this affect anything at all?
 

Rhys DeAnno

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If this was 4th Gen, TrickBall Metagross would be a little worse, since it cant get a SE Earthquake on Zapdos, but I cant think of anything even slightly relevant to this meta (yet).
 
Goes great with Fling Unburden Hitmonlee.
Fling Hitmonlee would do 100 bas power Dark damage, not give the item over. Think "Trick".

It also slows the user down greatly making them normally move last unless priority gets used.

Metagross uses Bullet Punch. Then forks your fruit by using Trick to take your whatever.

Aren't certain moves unusable? I thought if this was given to, say a Dragonite, that Dragonite would be unable to Roost...
 
Just to add a little tidbit, after about 42 battles on wifi Free Mode, I have seen this on a LOT of JP players' pokemon, especially on Scrafty. Not just in Trick Room teams either. This was in double battle mode so it may be different (Obviously, Trick Room usage is different there) but it's so noticeable that I can't imagine it isn't used at all in singles.
 

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