Smogon Premier League VII - Week 8

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O!!! M!!! G!!! only two more weeks until playoffs!!! holy cow is anybody else excited!!! lol

As the host, the biggest thing you guys can do for me is just get your matches done on time and keep drama to a minimum. While this tournament is known for high levels of drama and excitement, just keep it between you and the other teams. If there is a problem, take it up with me privately on IRC or through private message and I will do my best to resolve the issue.

As a reminder:

On... Sportsmanship
Note the sportsmanship infraction may be used liberally this SPL, and any unsportsmanlike conduct on the forums, in #spl / #pokemon / any of the semiofficial tier channels, or in opposing SPL team channels (I won't infract for you being a dick in your own SPL team channel unless the situation is so extreme I feel I absolutely have to make an exception (consider basically any masterclass interaction ever)), will be grounds for an infraction. We encourage you to play semi-aggressively, but don't be a Masterclass.

~ Aldaron

On... Scheduling Matches
I'm sure plenty of you have come across activity drama while scheduling matches. I'm here to reduce the arbitrary element associated with some of these decisions. It is entirely your decision to adhere to these STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS, but note that if you choose not to, I'll most likely ignore any pleading from your end.

YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR VM WALL IF YOU WISH TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS IS HOW ALL OFFICIAL SCHEDULING WILL BE HANDLED.

Once that week's thread is posted, you have up to 48 hours to contact your opponent ON HIS VM WALL and mention your timezone and exactly what dates, what time ranges you are available, and where you will battle. Note that the default accepted sim and server is the official server on Showdown/Smogon Tournament Server, or PO if you're playing an old gen. You must provide at least 3 different time ranges at least 48 hours from the timestamp of your message, with at least 2 that are 24-hours apart from each other. The minimum and maximum length for 1 time range is 30 minutes, and the minimum difference between the 3 required time ranges is 3 hours. If you give 3 time ranges that stick with this policy, you can give any additional time ranges at any time you please.

NOTE THAT THIS SCENARIO INVOLVES RESPONSE DYNAMICS; THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL CONTACT FIRST AND SOMEONE WHO RESPOND...THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT FOR BOTH OF YOU TO ASSUME TO YOU CAN BE FIRST CONTACTS...WHOEVER CONTACTS FIRST IS THE FIRST, AND THE OTHER DEFAULTS TO THE RESPONDER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME OF YOU ARE DUMB.

Once your opponent has contacted you, you now have up until 72 hours after the week's thread has been posted (NOT after your opponent's message) to respond with times that are good for you. What this means is that if both of you spend the maximum time contacting and responding, you should have back and forth collaboration at a maximum of 72 hours after the round has been posted, with both parties given an additional 24 hours to prepare for the battle should it be scheduled as soon as required. If none of the opponent's proposed time ranges are good for you, you must respond with alternative time ranges.

The first opponent now has X hours to prepare for the battle (if the second opponent agreed to some time) or 24 hours to contact a TD if, for whatever reason, this second set of time ranges does not suit the first opponent. Note this should be an absolute last measure.

Once a time is agreed upon, please make a message on your opponent's VM wall between 10 minutes and 1 second before the agreed upon time and say you are ready to battle and then get to agreed upon location (regardless of whether or not your opponent sends you a response VM). Please protect yourself by making this message, as it makes decisions much easier. You will be required to wait for your opponent for the duration of the time range.

If neither of you contact each other before 48 hours after the thread has been posted, you're both opening yourself up to a potential no contest or substitution. If I look at the situation, I might just determine I'm going to no contest, or whatever based on however I'm feeling at that moment. Don't leave yourself and your team vulnerable to this.

Just because at anytime one of the responders does not respond within the given range does not give you automatic activity win credentials. If they don't contact at all on your VM wall up until 48 hours before the end of the round (note, I'm not going to take irc or sim messages as evidence due to how easily they can be doctored...so if you want to protect yourself, stick to the VM messages), then you obviously have activity win justification. You WILL contact your opponent in a timely manner. However, if they do contact you at all after the suggested response time and before 48 hours before the end of the round, you are required to respond before 24 hours before the end of the round with 2 1-hour time ranges at least 1 hour apart before the end of the round. The opponent, since he did not stick to the proposed response schedule, WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY AT ONE OF YOUR NEWLY SUGGESTED TIMES, so you have the advantage here. This obviously puts a bit of an emphasis on the last 48 hours of each round (as is standard operating procedure for most of our official team tournaments anyway), so I will try my best to keep the last 48 hours of the round as close to the majority of the weekend for as much of the world as I can.

If you follow all of these guidelines, you will a.) most likely get your match done with minimal issue or b.) protect yourself and your team from an undue no contest or activity decision. Yes, I hate activity decisions in official tournaments. Yes, I will do my best to prevent activity decisions in the playoffs (the qualifying round is fair game however and I will have no problem issuing an activity call here), but don't push your luck.

Here is an example of how following this would work:

Week 1 thread is posted June 7, 2013 at 12:00 AM. Its deadline is June 14, 2013 at 11:59PM. User A and User B are matched up. User A contacts User B on his VM wall on June 7, at 9:00 PM (47 hours after the thread was posted, so ok), and gives 4 time ranges: June 10, from 7:00-7:30 PM (22 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is only ok so long as at minimum 3 of the other proposed time ranges adhere to the requirements), June 11, from 9:00-9:30 PM (48 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is ok), June 12, from 6:00-6:30 PM (69 hours after timestamp of his message, so ok, but only 21 hours after the earliest time range that is 48 hours after the timestamp), and June 12, from 9:00-9:30 PM (72 hours after the timestamp, so ok, and 24 hours after a legal time range and 3 hours after another legal time range). The June 11 and both June 12 time ranges satisfy the requirements, so User A can propose his first June 10 time range as well. User B responds on June 10, at 8:00 PM (23 hours after User A contacted him, so ok), and picks June 11, at 9:00 PM to battle, which is ok because it is 24 hours after his own response.

You'll note I made most of my response ranges multiples of 24 hours, but also included 24 hours. This means I expect you to be able to check Smogon at least once a day. If that is not feasible, you put yourself at risk.

~ Aldaron

On... Disconnecting and timing out drama
Ah, the big beefcake. I'm going to go ahead and put this out there: we reserve the right to judge any individual match on a case by case basis, regardless of assumed precedence set. If you don't like that, you are welcome to not play. Be aware of this.

Also, to protect yourself as much as possible from DCs and timer issues, play on Showdown (because it has an at least semi reliable system of rejoining after a DC) and make a gentleman's agreement to not hit timer and not be hour-a-move dicks.

That said, here is the main way we will probably handle DCs / timing out:

To handle all DC cases...you're gonna submit your teams before the match. Zebraiken and Oglemi, who are not playing nor affiliated with any team, will manage this team submission form. You don't have to submit, but if you do, you protect yourself from the opponent taking a win. If you do DC (and you can't rejoin the battle) and you haven't submitted your team, your opponent will have the right to take the win. Yes, I'll most likely make a judgment call if he is on his last turn with 1 Pokemon at 5% and paralyzed and with you at 6 100% health Pokemon, because the only way to lose this is to misclick multiple times. However, if you're at 6 100% Pokemon and your opponent is at last Pokemon 10% needing to crit flinch you 6 - 12 times for the win, I'll give him the win if you DC and haven't submitted your team.

I know people like Philip7086 will beg me "to use common sense for a judgment call" for all cases and I would normally agree, but I am giving you all a 100% out by allowing you to submit your team. Basically, submit your team, and protect yourself and your team from any and all DCs. It's a simple procedure that removes almost all subjectivity from a decision regarding a DC. Unlike with the scheduling restrictions, all you have to do is submit the team your are using at anytime before the match takes place, and you'll have 100% protected yourself. Read this rule and understand this now before you join the tournament. Since I'm stating this now, I'm basically going to ignore you if you DC, didn't submit a team, and "had a guaranteed win." Expect it. Also note that I'm going to let the PLAYER (not the team), decide whether he is going to take the win or go another route (replay same moves, replay different teams, etc.).

To further ensure no funny business, if, in the case of a DC replay, there is any concern from either party about funny business, both parties have the right to request a screenshot of the current Pokemon's stats in battle. This is irrelevant for Showdown as you can simply rejoin a battle there, but PO allows you to see the currently out Pokemon's stats if you scroll over it with your mouse. Just hit PrntScrn (windows) while scrolling over it if requested by your opponent, preferably with proof that it is a screenshot of that actual battle (consider including the opponent's request in the battle screen in the screenshot).

Regarding time outs, they are a bit more complex, specifically because some timeouts are due to DCs. The best we can do for this scenario is say that there is some number between 1 minute and 2 minutes (which we will not publicize) that we will set as a limit for timing out, and if you timeout with more than that limit time remaining, we'll assume it is a DC, whereas the opposite is a true timeout. A true timeout defaults to a loss, while the DC timeout is prone to the DC rules (did you submit or not).

~ Aldaron
Basically: use VMs to communicate and schedule your matches, don't be a drama llama (being an ATOMIC llama is fine), submit your teams, and we'll get along perfect.

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Firebot Falcons (4) vs Stark Sharks (8)

ORAS OU #1: Ary vs reiku
ORAS OU #2: Destiny Device vs Alastor Law
ORAS UU: Tesung vs gene
ORAS RU: Dice vs Meru
ORAS NU: Can-Eh-Dian vs Frizy
ORAS LC: ZoroarkForever vs blarajan
ORAS Doubles: KyleCole vs TheFourthChaser
BW OU: Leftiez vs GOD MARTH
DPP OU: Tamahome vs Smurf.
ADV OU: Triangles vs Golden Sun
GSC OU: Mr.E vs Conflict
RBY OU: reyscarface vs The_Chaser



Indie Scooters (6) vs Ever Grande BIGS (6)

ORAS OU #1: xray vs boudouche
ORAS OU #2: liberty32 vs Reymedy
ORAS UU: xMarth vs bugzinator
ORAS RU: Windsong vs SilentVerse
ORAS NU: Realistic Waters vs rozes
ORAS LC: Mael vs ZoroDark
ORAS Doubles: Biosci vs BLINGAS
BW OU: Aurious vs Finchinator
DPP OU: Tricking vs HANTSUKI
ADV OU: Danilo vs McMeghan
GSC OU: Isa vs d0nut
RBY OU: marcoasd vs MetalGro$$



Wi-Fi Wolfpack (8) vs Congregation of the Classiest (4)

ORAS OU #1: aim vs blunder
ORAS OU #2: Stathakis vs IAmGingy
ORAS UU: Omfuga vs Ice Tea
ORAS RU: FlamingVictini vs Aeroblacktyl
ORAS NU: Bouff vs Soulgazer
ORAS LC: Mambo vs Heysup
ORAS Doubles: Braverius vs Memoric
BW OU: sugarhigh vs Evuelf
DPP OU: PDC vs Zamrock
ADV OU: undisputed vs Ojama
GSC OU: Bomber. vs giara
RBY OU: Bedschibaer vs Agammemnon



Alpha Ruiners (4) vs Circus Maximus Tigers (8)

ORAS OU #1: ABR vs mencemeat
ORAS OU #2: TheEnder vs ben gay
ORAS UU: Hogg vs dodmen
ORAS RU: Luigi. vs atomicllamas
ORAS NU: Shaneghoul vs Blast
ORAS LC: Disenchanted vs OP
ORAS Doubles: checkmater75 vs qsns
BW OU: SoulWind vs Asuya
DPP OU: Kushalos vs Honor
ADV OU: dekzeh vs JabbaTheGriffin
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Earthworm
RBY OU: Tiba vs Golden Gyarados



Team Raiders (5) vs Cryonicles (7)

ORAS OU #1: CrashinBoomBang vs GeeMick
ORAS OU #2: TDK vs Sweepage
ORAS UU: kokoloko vs teal6
ORAS RU: Esteemed User Ginku vs Scythe.
ORAS NU: Kiyo vs Teddeh
ORAS LC: Kingler12345 vs Star.
ORAS Doubles: BLOOD TOTEM vs HJAD
BW OU: Philip7086 vs Shoka
DPP OU: august vs Porengan
ADV OU: Veteran In Love vs Fakes
GSC OU: Picollo vs Colchonero
RBY OU: Tobes vs Lutra

Deadline is Sunday, March 6th, at 11:59 PM EST.

If I made a mistake with any matchups or names, please contact me immediately. Also, post all of your replays / logs kthnx.

60/60 matches completed
 
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GSC OU: Bomber92 vs giara
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Earthworm
 

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GSC OU: Mr.E vs Conflict As long as he dodges 4 freezes he should be okay.
GSC OU: Isa vs d0nut d0nut has been pretty good he can take it.
GSC OU: Bomber92 vs giara I think he'll take this one but let's see how bomber does.
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Earthworm It's Earthworm.
GSC OU: Picollo vs Colchonero Could go either way tbh. Should be good.
 
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Now lock 'n load, I'm back with the adaptive monster flow,
'Cause I'll take your flow, spit it back better 'cause I'm the rap Ditto,
Engaging in more sex in a vortex orgy full of whores yet,
I can stay Cash Money and grind experience 'til you're sore I bet,
I got more forms than Deoxys and need no stone to keep a form set,
But I'm hard as Rock with the most infectious flow yet.

Take this L fam.

hf classy
 
Firebot Falcons (0) vs Stark Sharks (0)

ORAS OU #1: Ary vs reiku
ORAS OU #2: Destiny Device vs Alastor Law
ORAS UU: Tesung vs Hikari- hmu for teams -
ORAS RU: Dice vs Meru- only person I could predict dice to beat is the most predictable builder of all-time...
ORAS NU: Can-Eh-Dian vs Cased
ORAS LC: ZoroarkForever vs blarajan
ORAS Doubles: KyleCole vs TheFourthChaser
BW OU: Leftiez vs GOD MARTH- sorry king, ur no afrab...
DPP OU: Tamahome vs Smurf.
ADV OU: Triangles vs Golden Sun
GSC OU: Mr.E vs Conflict
RBY OU: reyscarface vs The_Chaser




Wi-Fi Wolfpack (0) vs Congregation of the Classiest (0)

ORAS OU #1: aim vs blunder
ORAS OU #2: Stathakis vs IAmGingy
ORAS UU: Omfuga vs Ice Tea
ORAS RU: FlamingVictini vs Aeroblacktyl
ORAS NU: Bouff vs Soulgazer
ORAS LC: Mambo vs Heysup
ORAS Doubles: Braverius vs Memoric
BW OU: sugarhigh vs Evuelf
DPP OU: PDC vs Zamrock
ADV OU: undisputed vs Ojama
GSC OU: Bomber92 vs giara
RBY OU: Bedschibaer vs Agammemnon


Alpha Ruiners (0) vs Circus Maximus Tigers (0)

ORAS OU #1: ABR vs mencemeat
ORAS OU #2: TheEnder vs ben gay
ORAS UU: Hogg vs dodmen
ORAS RU: Luigi. vs atomicllamas- whys this fraud still in RU
ORAS NU: Jarii vs Blast
ORAS LC: mad0ka vs OP
ORAS Doubles: checkmater75 vs qsns
BW OU: SoulWind vs Asuya
DPP OU: Kushalos vs Honor
ADV OU: dekzeh vs JabbaTheGriffin
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Earthworm
RBY OU: Tiba vs Golden Gyarados


Team Raiders (0) vs Cryonicles (0)

ORAS OU #1: CrashinBoomBang vs GeeMick
ORAS OU #2: TDK vs Sweepage- the GOD..
ORAS UU: kokoloko vs teal6
ORAS RU: Esteemed User Ginku vs Scythe.- scythe's really good oo
ORAS NU: Kiyo vs Teddeh-hhahahahAHaha..
ORAS LC: Kingler12345 vs Star.
ORAS Doubles: BLOOD TOTEM vs Lohgock
BW OU: Philip7086 vs PokèManiac Livio
DPP OU: august vs Porengan
ADV OU: Veteran In Love vs Fakes
GSC OU: Picollo vs Colchonero- king
RBY OU: Tobes vs Lutra
 
Firebot Falcons (6) vs Stark Sharks (6)

ORAS OU #1: Ary vs reiku
ORAS OU #2: Destiny Device vs Alastor Law
ORAS UU: Tesung vs Hikari
ORAS RU: Dice vs Meru
ORAS NU: Can-Eh-Dian vs Cased
ORAS LC: ZoroarkForever vs blarajan
ORAS Doubles: KyleCole vs TheFourthChaser
BW OU: Leftiez vs GOD MARTH | the curse is broken bros it's his time...
DPP OU: Tamahome vs Smurf.
ADV OU: Triangles vs Golden Sun
GSC OU: Mr.E vs Conflict
RBY OU: reyscarface vs The_Chaser

Indie Scooters (5) vs Ever Grande BIGS (7)

ORAS OU #1: xray vs boudouche
ORAS OU #2: liberty32 vs Reymedy
ORAS UU: xMarth vs bugzinator
ORAS RU: Windsong vs SilentVerse
ORAS NU: Realistic Waters vs rozes
ORAS LC: Mael vs ZoroDark
ORAS Doubles: Biosci vs BLINGAS
BW OU: Aurious vs Finchinator
DPP OU: Jirachee vs Malekith
ADV OU: Danilo vs McMeghan
GSC OU: Isa vs d0nut
RBY OU: marcoasd vs MetalGro$$

Alpha Ruiners (5) vs Circus Maximus Tigers (7)

ORAS OU #1: ABR vs mencemeat
ORAS OU #2: TheEnder vs ben gay
ORAS UU: Hogg vs dodmen
ORAS RU: Luigi. vs atomicllamas
ORAS NU: Jarii vs Blast
ORAS LC: mad0ka vs OP
ORAS Doubles: checkmater75 vs qsns
BW OU: SoulWind vs Asuya
DPP OU: Kushalos vs Honor
ADV OU: dekzeh vs JabbaTheGriffin
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Earthworm
RBY OU: Tiba vs Golden Gyarados

Team Raiders (5) vs Cryonicles (7)

ORAS OU #1: CrashinBoomBang vs GeeMick
ORAS OU #2: TDK vs Sweepage
ORAS UU: kokoloko vs teal6
ORAS RU: Esteemed User Ginku vs Scythe.
ORAS NU: Kiyo vs Teddeh
ORAS LC: Kingler12345 vs Star.
ORAS Doubles: BLOOD TOTEM vs Lohgock
BW OU: Philip7086 vs PokèManiac Livio
DPP OU: august vs Porengan
ADV OU: Veteran In Love vs Fakes
GSC OU: Picollo vs Colchonero
RBY OU: Tobes vs Lutra
 

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Firebot Falcons (0) vs Stark Sharks (0)

ORAS OU #1: Ary vs reiku
ORAS OU #2: Destiny Device vs Alastor Law
ORAS UU: Tesung vs Hikari
ORAS RU: Dice vs Meru
ORAS NU: Can-Eh-Dian vs Cased
ORAS LC: ZoroarkForever vs blarajan
ORAS Doubles: KyleCole vs TheFourthChaser
BW OU: Leftiez vs GOD MARTH
DPP OU: Tamahome vs Smurf.
ADV OU: Triangles vs Golden Sun
GSC OU: Mr.E vs Conflict
RBY OU: reyscarface vs The_Chaser


Indie Scooters (0) vs Ever Grande BIGS (0)

ORAS OU #1: xray vs boudouche
ORAS OU #2: liberty32 vs Reymedy
ORAS UU: xMarth vs bugzinator
ORAS RU: Windsong vs SilentVerse
ORAS NU: Realistic Waters vs rozes
ORAS LC: Mael vs ZoroDark
ORAS Doubles: Biosci vs BLINGAS
BW OU: Aurious vs Finchinator
DPP OU: Jirachee vs Malekith
ADV OU: Danilo vs McMeghan
GSC OU: Isa vs d0nut
RBY OU: marcoasd vs MetalGro$$


Wi-Fi Wolfpack (1) vs Congregation of the Classiest (0)

ORAS OU #1: aim vs blunder
ORAS OU #2: Stathakis vs IAmGingy
ORAS UU: Omfuga vs Ice Tea
ORAS RU: FlamingVictini vs Aeroblacktyl
ORAS NU: Bouff vs Soulgazer
ORAS LC: Mambo vs Heysup
ORAS Doubles: Braverius vs Memoric
BW OU: sugarhigh vs Evuelf
DPP OU: PDC vs Zamrock
ADV OU: undisputed vs Ojama
GSC OU: Bomber92 vs giara
RBY OU: Bedschibaer vs Agammemnon


Alpha Ruiners (0) vs Circus Maximus Tigers (0)

ORAS OU #1: ABR vs mencemeat
ORAS OU #2: TheEnder vs ben gay
ORAS UU: Hogg vs dodmen
ORAS RU: Luigi. vs atomicllamas
ORAS NU: Jarii vs Blast
ORAS LC: mad0ka vs OP
ORAS Doubles: checkmater75 vs qsns
BW OU: SoulWind vs Asuya
DPP OU: Kushalos vs Honor
ADV OU: dekzeh vs JabbaTheGriffin
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Earthworm
RBY OU: Tiba vs Golden Gyarados


Team Raiders (0) vs Cryonicles (0)

ORAS OU #1: CrashinBoomBang vs GeeMick
ORAS OU #2: TDK vs Sweepage
ORAS UU: kokoloko vs teal8-0
ORAS RU: Esteemed User Ginku vs Scythe.
ORAS NU: Kiyo vs Teddeh
ORAS LC: Kingler12345 vs Star.
ORAS Doubles: BLOOD TOTEM vs Lohgock
BW OU: Philip7086 vs PokèManiac Livio
DPP OU: august vs Porengan
ADV OU: Veteran In Love vs Fakes
GSC OU: Picollo vs Colchonero
RBY OU: Tobes vs Lutra
 
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