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The Top 10 Titans of the 5th Gen RU Metagame
- Thread starter Hakumen
- Start date
Cresselia
Yanmega
Cofagrigus
Honchkrow
Nidoqueen
Slowking
Alakazam
Venomoth
Entei
Sharpedo
Had to do a lot of research for this one since many of these threats were around before I came to RU (Yanmega, Sharpedo, Porygon-Z, Alakazam, Venomoth, Cresselia, and Sableye to name the ones that I had 0 experience with using or dealing with) Through my research, I noticed that Cresselia seemed to dominate in each stint she had in RU. (and as Molk said, she got suspected and banned 3 times in BW2 RU alone. Probably would've been 4 had usage not taken her up to UU back in BW RU) All that said, I tried my best to have an open mind with everything and to not show bias towards the threats I had experience with.
Yanmega
Cofagrigus
Honchkrow
Nidoqueen
Slowking
Alakazam
Venomoth
Entei
Sharpedo
Had to do a lot of research for this one since many of these threats were around before I came to RU (Yanmega, Sharpedo, Porygon-Z, Alakazam, Venomoth, Cresselia, and Sableye to name the ones that I had 0 experience with using or dealing with) Through my research, I noticed that Cresselia seemed to dominate in each stint she had in RU. (and as Molk said, she got suspected and banned 3 times in BW2 RU alone. Probably would've been 4 had usage not taken her up to UU back in BW RU) All that said, I tried my best to have an open mind with everything and to not show bias towards the threats I had experience with.
-Cresselia
-Yanmega
-Sharpedo
-Cofagrigus
-Nidoqueen
-Honchkrow
-Venomoth
-Alakazam
-Sableye
Some were RU for a bit time only like Alakazam or Sableye but i'm adding them because the big potential.
-Yanmega
-Sharpedo
-Cofagrigus
-Nidoqueen
-Honchkrow
-Venomoth
-Alakazam
-Sableye
Some were RU for a bit time only like Alakazam or Sableye but i'm adding them because the big potential.
After some discussion on IRC yesterday, I decided to add the following Pokemons as nominees:
-Uxie
- Tangrowth
- Lilligant
- Gallade
So, you're free to make another nomination. Nominees are now :
- Slowking
- Porygon-Z
- Nidoqueen
- Cresselia
- Yanmega
- Venomoth
- Entei
- Cofragrigus
- Honchkrow
- Sableye
- Sharpedo
- Alakazam
- Sceptile
- Druddigon
- Uxie
- Tangrowth
- Lilligant
- Gallade
-Uxie
- Tangrowth
- Lilligant
- Gallade
So, you're free to make another nomination. Nominees are now :
- Slowking
- Porygon-Z
- Nidoqueen
- Cresselia
- Yanmega
- Venomoth
- Entei
- Cofragrigus
- Honchkrow
- Sableye
- Sharpedo
- Alakazam
- Sceptile
- Druddigon
- Uxie
- Tangrowth
- Lilligant
- Gallade
First reply in new forums! So pumped.
-Cresselia
-Nidoqueen
-Cofagrigus
-Yanmega
-Venomoth
-Honchkrow
-Sharpedo
-Alakazam
-Slowking
-Uxie
I too haven't had a large amount of experience with some of the older mons (I started playing competitively in RU just before Cresselia was banned for the last time (I've played with all of them in UU/OU though)). I tried to include the threats that I feel shaped the current meta game and imo Cresselia/Queen were the mons that really influenced the shape of the meta, seeing as a lot of mons still run the speed EVs to outrun max speed, neutral nature, base 76's (Nidoqueen). Cresselia caused certain things to have a lot more merit in RU than they really should have (Scyther, Absol, Crawdaunt, etc.), these are all decent mons, but Cress gave them an important role in this meta that lasted even after she left the tier. Cresselia and Nidoqueen definitely deserve a spot in the top 3 of this list as they were the two mons that gave the greatest influence on the final BW/BW2 meta.
-Cresselia
-Nidoqueen
-Cofagrigus
-Yanmega
-Venomoth
-Honchkrow
-Sharpedo
-Alakazam
-Slowking
-Uxie
I too haven't had a large amount of experience with some of the older mons (I started playing competitively in RU just before Cresselia was banned for the last time (I've played with all of them in UU/OU though)). I tried to include the threats that I feel shaped the current meta game and imo Cresselia/Queen were the mons that really influenced the shape of the meta, seeing as a lot of mons still run the speed EVs to outrun max speed, neutral nature, base 76's (Nidoqueen). Cresselia caused certain things to have a lot more merit in RU than they really should have (Scyther, Absol, Crawdaunt, etc.), these are all decent mons, but Cress gave them an important role in this meta that lasted even after she left the tier. Cresselia and Nidoqueen definitely deserve a spot in the top 3 of this list as they were the two mons that gave the greatest influence on the final BW/BW2 meta.
Cresselia, Yanmega, Honchkrow, Porygon-Z, Slowking, Cofagrigus, Entei, Sharpedo, Nidoqueen, Sceptile
Plz dont hurt me for not including Venomoth ;_; I just thought that Yanmega required a similar preparation and QuiverPass was better than Venomoth itself, but the fact moth doesn't completely suck without Quiver Dance helped. Sleep has also always been a big deal and still is, and people have only started REALLY preparing for it a while ago (after Lilli got suspected, possibly later)
Plz dont hurt me for not including Venomoth ;_; I just thought that Yanmega required a similar preparation and QuiverPass was better than Venomoth itself, but the fact moth doesn't completely suck without Quiver Dance helped. Sleep has also always been a big deal and still is, and people have only started REALLY preparing for it a while ago (after Lilli got suspected, possibly later)
Venomoth, Slowking, Cresselia, Yanmega, Sharpedo, Porygon-Z, Nidoqueen, Alakazam, Cofagrigus, and Sableye no particualr order
Edit: Changed Sceptile to Alakazam
Edit: Changed Sceptile to Alakazam
So the top 10 titanx will be:
- Cresselia (16 votes)
- Nidoqueen (16 votes)
- Yanmega (16 votes)
- Cofagrigus (15 votes)
- Hounchkrow (15 votes)
- Sharpedo (15 votes)
- Venomoth (14 votes)
- Slowking (14 votes)
- Porygon-Z (10 votes)
- Alakazam ( 10 votes)
The voting for the first, second, third etc... is most likely to be done in spetember, one month before X and Y arrival but I may change this date.
- Cresselia (16 votes)
- Nidoqueen (16 votes)
- Yanmega (16 votes)
- Cofagrigus (15 votes)
- Hounchkrow (15 votes)
- Sharpedo (15 votes)
- Venomoth (14 votes)
- Slowking (14 votes)
- Porygon-Z (10 votes)
- Alakazam ( 10 votes)
The voting for the first, second, third etc... is most likely to be done in spetember, one month before X and Y arrival but I may change this date.
Voting for #1 spot
Aright, the voting phase has finally started. Firstly, we will vote for the #1. Obviously, this is really important as we will vote for the Pokemon that has been deemed the most influential and has had the largest impact of any Pokemon in the entire RU tier so choose well. If you vote, give a short description about your vote as it is important. The voting will always last 2 days, as I feel that it is enough time to vote. Happy voting.
Cressalia
Imo the most broken Pokemon RU has ever seen...3 times! Practically unkillable, capable of sweeping, excelletn team support, completely centralised the metagame around its presence. Definite #1 for me.
Imo the most broken Pokemon RU has ever seen...3 times! Practically unkillable, capable of sweeping, excelletn team support, completely centralised the metagame around its presence. Definite #1 for me.
Nidoqueen
Nidoqueen had a tremendous impact on the tier, that still affects the tier to this day. It was responsible for the rise of stuff like Uxie and Cryogonal, and the fall of full stall in RU.
Edit: my 300th post oO
Nidoqueen had a tremendous impact on the tier, that still affects the tier to this day. It was responsible for the rise of stuff like Uxie and Cryogonal, and the fall of full stall in RU.
Edit: my 300th post oO
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Cresselia
Cresselia was easily the most centralizing and powerful Pokemon to ever enter RU imo, it was nearly impossible to KO via normal means, and forced people to run very specific Pokemon/sets to get past her (some of which weren't even 100% lol). If you didn't run these threats, you couldn't beat Cresselia, simply put. Cresselia spent quite some time in RU too, getting retested multiple times, making her effect on the metagame even more powerful compared to some other banned titans.
Cresselia was easily the most centralizing and powerful Pokemon to ever enter RU imo, it was nearly impossible to KO via normal means, and forced people to run very specific Pokemon/sets to get past her (some of which weren't even 100% lol). If you didn't run these threats, you couldn't beat Cresselia, simply put. Cresselia spent quite some time in RU too, getting retested multiple times, making her effect on the metagame even more powerful compared to some other banned titans.
Cresselia
Cresselia is the single biggest threat to ever come to RU. It got tested and banned not once, not twice, but three times! Every time, it was the same problem. Cress was a nigh unkillable wall that provided ample team support at a very low cost. It could sweep, it could wall, it could support. The first and third tests were really defining imo as they featured premier Bug-types like Yanmega, Escavalier, and Venomoth, but Cress was still a premier threat in spite of this. Definite #1 imo.
Cresselia is the single biggest threat to ever come to RU. It got tested and banned not once, not twice, but three times! Every time, it was the same problem. Cress was a nigh unkillable wall that provided ample team support at a very low cost. It could sweep, it could wall, it could support. The first and third tests were really defining imo as they featured premier Bug-types like Yanmega, Escavalier, and Venomoth, but Cress was still a premier threat in spite of this. Definite #1 imo.
Cresselia
Every metagame with Cresselia sucked. That's all I gotta say.
Every metagame with Cresselia sucked. That's all I gotta say.
Cresselia
Cresselia was probably the most impacting and dangerous Pokemon to ever enter RU. It was here in the inception of BW RU, the round after Krookodile left the tier, and in for a retest in late 2012. Every time, it was broken as hell and ridiculous. Its insane bulk means that one does not simply OHKO Cresselia; and its reliable recovery and immunity to Spikes and Toxic Spikes only sweetened the deal. You had to run really powerful Pokemon that could hit Cresselia super effectively; and even then, Cresselia could pair itself up with teammates like Poliwrath and handle them without a problem. What also made it powerful was that it could support its team well; it could set up Dual Screens and use them too to become completely impossible to kill, or use Sunny Day to help sun teams and a buffed Moonlight too. Cresselia was a really powerful Pokemon in the tier, and was here long enough to make it an easy candidate for #1 imo.
Cresselia was probably the most impacting and dangerous Pokemon to ever enter RU. It was here in the inception of BW RU, the round after Krookodile left the tier, and in for a retest in late 2012. Every time, it was broken as hell and ridiculous. Its insane bulk means that one does not simply OHKO Cresselia; and its reliable recovery and immunity to Spikes and Toxic Spikes only sweetened the deal. You had to run really powerful Pokemon that could hit Cresselia super effectively; and even then, Cresselia could pair itself up with teammates like Poliwrath and handle them without a problem. What also made it powerful was that it could support its team well; it could set up Dual Screens and use them too to become completely impossible to kill, or use Sunny Day to help sun teams and a buffed Moonlight too. Cresselia was a really powerful Pokemon in the tier, and was here long enough to make it an easy candidate for #1 imo.
Yanmega
Yanmega was stupid. It was bulky enough to tank priority, you could ohko most things and 2hko everything except munchlax with specs, ohko some things/2hko most things and outrun everything with speed boost... Cresselia was centralizing but at least it had answers (Scolipede, Durant, Escavalier, Toxic Slowking, CM Slowking, Toxic in general, dark types for sets without coverage), while Yanmega was getting a kill or two and there wasn't anything you could do about it. This is mostly a 1A to Cresselia's 1B (no one really used Venomoth but it was almost as bad), but Yanmega was the most dominant pkmn to grace RU for the round it was here.
Yanmega was stupid. It was bulky enough to tank priority, you could ohko most things and 2hko everything except munchlax with specs, ohko some things/2hko most things and outrun everything with speed boost... Cresselia was centralizing but at least it had answers (Scolipede, Durant, Escavalier, Toxic Slowking, CM Slowking, Toxic in general, dark types for sets without coverage), while Yanmega was getting a kill or two and there wasn't anything you could do about it. This is mostly a 1A to Cresselia's 1B (no one really used Venomoth but it was almost as bad), but Yanmega was the most dominant pkmn to grace RU for the round it was here.
Nidoqueen
The metagame was centered around this thing so much. Of course, the same can be said for Cresselia, and it was a hard choice between the two. In the end, I went with the one that in my opinion had the most overpowering combination of power, bulky and utility. This thing was a massive threat every stage it was in RU.
The metagame was centered around this thing so much. Of course, the same can be said for Cresselia, and it was a hard choice between the two. In the end, I went with the one that in my opinion had the most overpowering combination of power, bulky and utility. This thing was a massive threat every stage it was in RU.
Alright so the voting for the #1 spot ends here!
Cresselia: 6
Nidoqueen: 2
Venomoth: 1
Yanmega : 1
Cresselia is the Winner!
1.
Cresselia won and is so the biggest titan of the RU metagame. It complety centralized the metagame, making its counters required on all teams to kill Cresselia and also it spent quite a long time in the tier, making its impact even bigger. The fact that it got banned 3 times in three different metagames shows how broken and centralazing Cresselia was.
Voting for #2 spot
Alright the voting has begun! We are going to be voting for the #2 spot.. Like the previous vote, you have to make a short explanation of your choice. The voting will last for two days. Happy voting!
Cresselia: 6
Nidoqueen: 2
Venomoth: 1
Yanmega : 1
Cresselia is the Winner!
1.
Cresselia won and is so the biggest titan of the RU metagame. It complety centralized the metagame, making its counters required on all teams to kill Cresselia and also it spent quite a long time in the tier, making its impact even bigger. The fact that it got banned 3 times in three different metagames shows how broken and centralazing Cresselia was.
Voting for #2 spot
Alright the voting has begun! We are going to be voting for the #2 spot.. Like the previous vote, you have to make a short explanation of your choice. The voting will last for two days. Happy voting!
Yanmega
Stupidly strong, nigh uncounterable, reasonable bulk, Tinted Lens to fuck with defense or Speed Boost to fuck with offense. The first Pokemon banned and the second titan for this list.
Stupidly strong, nigh uncounterable, reasonable bulk, Tinted Lens to fuck with defense or Speed Boost to fuck with offense. The first Pokemon banned and the second titan for this list.
