I was comparing them in the respect that they are both potential technician STAB Priority abusers. They both have 130 base attack and are both weak to fire.Scizor is where it is chiefly because it has U-Turn AND Bullet Punch. Thus, it is vastly different then Breloom. It is unfair to compare the two in this respect.
Ya, but that's why using U-Turn will be more risky though.He's more or less the same so he'll still be used a lot. However Shanderaa will knock him down quite a good amount of posistions. She's faster and Scizor can't do much to her. Plus Shadow tag and any fire move of her choice.
Even if he did get mach punch, the set still wouldn't have been completely broken. Heatran would have a harder time countering it, but shanderaa, gyarados, and the rotom-H (and the other forms if he doesn't have night slash) can still handle him just fine.This set probably would have been broken:
Scizor @ Life Orb
Technician
248 HP 252 AT 8 SPE
~Swords Dance
~Bullet Punch
~Mach Punch
~Quick Attack
Hence, no mach punch lol
Pursuit wouldn't hurt Shandera switching in either; it would hit the outgoing poke, letting Shandera in for free, bar any hazard damage. Then Scizor would be screwed, assuming it's choiced, and Shandera is running STag.Shanderaa is obviously a solid counter to Scizor if Shadow Tag is still legal, but it's not all that great at switching in. Obviously Pursuit kills it and U-Turn gets Scizor out of trouble...but a CB Adamant Scizor with Technician does 34-40% with Bullet Punch, assuming Shanderaa has no EVs invested in its defense. That means if Stealth Rock is in play, Shanderaa may actually die before getting to attack, as Bullet Punch's priority means it hits twice if Shanderaa switches in.
Obviously it can switch in on Superpower and proceed to rape, but if Stealth Rock is in play it's taking quite a risk switching in.
Scizor had to be weary of magnezone in gen 4 and did just fine. shandera has too much to risk to switch into scizor, the same way as magnezone did. either you get OHKO'd, or give a free Uturn while you eat the damage to the face.Basically the only way CB Scizor survives Shandera is by U-Turning on the switch, or maybe a 2HKO with Bullet Punch if Shandera's not running a defensive spread
DERP. My bad.Pursuit wouldn't hurt Shandera switching in either; it would hit the outgoing poke, letting Shandera in for free, bar any hazard damage. Then Scizor would be screwed, assuming it's choiced, and Shandera is running STag.
Basically the only way CB Scizor survives Shandera is by U-Turning on the switch, or maybe a 2HKO with Bullet Punch if Shandera's not running a defensive spread
all the rotom forms don't have ghost typing now, except for the original one(without all the H W beside their names). They now have a secondary typing similar to their 2nd signature move, eg.hydro pump/overheatEven if he did get mach punch, the set still wouldn't have been completely broken. Heatran would have a harder time countering it, but shanderaa, gyarados, and the rotom-H (and the other forms if he doesn't have night slash) can still handle him just fine.
Shandera can still revenge Scizor without worrying much. But Scizor is still a very potent threat and we shouldn't worry about Dream World abilities yet.shandera is NOT much of an issue for Scizor. Consider these possibilities:
1. Shandera switches in, and eats a U-Turn, and scizor escapes, leaving shandera exposed.
2. Shandera switches in, and eats 2 Bullet punches + entry hazards before an attack. A probable KO.
3. Shandera switches in, and eats a Night Slash. OHKO.
4. Shandera switches in while Scizor pursuits. Shadera must attack now or else gets OHKO'd. so, you lose scizor, but shandera is open to revenge kill and whatever was pursuited takes your damage. Advantage-Scizor user.
5. Shandera switches into a Superpower. Scizor gets OHKO'd and shandera can get a free set up. However, as strategic players no, Superpower should not just be tossed around (even more so now people no that shandera is running around). Plus, shandera is risking itself for that predicted Superpower. Suppose scizor uses something else.....
Dont just dismiss what i said. Shandera cannot easily revenge scizor. U-Turn lets scizor escape, and Bulet punch might kill a weakened shandera. So there is worry.Shandera can still revenge Scizor without worrying much. But Scizor is still a very potent threat and we shouldn't worry about Dream World abilities yet.
Not with one of every 2 teams running Burunkeru and Nattorei as the new SkarmBliss it won't. Magnezone traps Nattorei and murders Burunkeru.
I feel like Magnezone will drop out of OU this gen due to Shanderaa's overall superior trapping abilities.
As for Scizor hes still able to check a massive amount of threats while not actually fearing Shanderaa all that much. I wonder if he'll stay at the top of the charts again, or drift back down to his original D/P low OU usage levels.
Either way it gives Magnezone a niche by stopping their stalls and preventing the use of better items on Nattorei. The point is not "does it work", it's "is it reason enough to put Magnezone on a team?" Yeah. It pretty much is, especially at this point.A Nattorei without Shed Shell and a Burunkeru thats too retarded to switch? Impossible.