lol none of this whining is coming from a managerial perspective. obviously it doesn't affect you because you don't play. the people who are whining are the same people who are going to get ripped off of spots because of this. no one wants an 'easy route', they just want to play.
it isnt a coincidence that most of the well respected elite players dont whine because they have playing security. in case you haven't noticed, a lot of these well respected players aren't even the best anymore and get by on name alone. extra spots in dpp ou allowed players like ENZ0, apologies, and legendary07 among others to actually participate. shockingly these new not-as-respected players were some of the best and made huge impacts on teams. these are the types of players that are going to get shorted by 2 vgc slots.
final note: this website isnt about the vgc. its about this weird metagame we call standard ou. we are giving the same weight to a metagame that represents around 10% of the site as we are to a metagame that represents over 75% of it. perhaps ive clicked the wrong the wrong website.
OK two major issues to reply to here:
One: you are presenting this issue as though it is inherently negative that fewer players who only play standard OU are able to play. This is flawed because it's reflecting your bias; there are similarly many players who probably wouldn't be on standard OU rosters who are able to get on SPL rosters because they made an effort to learn the other metagames and be valuable to a team. I would wager people like pirotechnix and SK would have a harder time getting on a roster in an event like WC, but in SPL they were able to be very important players for a very successful team, and it's worth noting neither of them are quite the same type of community old timers as someone like g80. I use the word team a lot - this is a team event, by the way - I wonder how often that gets lost when people see the rules. I could slot Atticus in at ADV or husk in at VGC if I had to because they learned other metagames for fun and to help our team practice last year, and that's part of what makes them good players. Good players are similarly good players no matter what metagame you put them in, I find, and while there's a difference between good and great it's hard to replace strong understanding of Pokemon. It's really tough to do well in this event if you don't have players helping each other practice with how rampant scouting is, and I know at least when I look at players as a manager, it's a big deal to me if players are going to help out in other metagames. You're making it very clear that you would not - I would rather take someone who is a worse player in DP or BW or whatever but more of a team player because of it. This is not a tournament where it works well for it to be all about you, as you're making it. Again, ST is for that.
You may also recall I was the one who drafted the aforementioned apologies, and I'd probably do it again in the same situation even with one fewer OU slot because he was supposed to be a substitute to begin with. If players are good enough to make a difference they'll end up on rosters because of their skills and potential, not because they aren't big names or because there aren't enough metagame slots. He proved he was good enough to be our best option in OU those weeks so he played and did very well. He was also a great team guy, by the way, which everyone on the team noticed. If you don't get drafted it's because you're not good enough or aren't trying hard enough to make yourself useful enough to a team. Focus on what you can control. I'd say you've pretty obviously ruled out one of the ten teams from drafting you, and I'd certainly suggest friends owning other teams avoid you based on your attitude. I would wager people like apologies and ENZ0 will have little trouble ending up on teams. Especially if there's an anime battle segment(I'm kidding ENZ0 please don't yell at me).
I would also wager I wouldn't have any issues getting on a team as a player under either ruleset so I'm not sure what you're getting at with the manager comment...
The second point, though:
you pretty clearly have no idea what this website is about. I hate to be super condescending here, but I'd say you led off by trying to tell me what this website is about, so let me tell you a bit about smogon, since you're new and seem to be confused. I think you
have clicked the wrong website, so try not to let the door hit you in the ass. We have, in fact, always focused on standard OU here. That was ADV once - now an "old gen" that people would love to phase out of this tournament in order to open up more slots for metagames they're comfortable with. It was DP once - a metagame people now can't seem to let go of the same way they love to try to dismiss DP. It's BW now - and slots had to be made for it. You may recall(or you may not, judging by your join date) that when ADV was the standard metagame here we still ran GSC and RBY tours and basically every player on the site played all three of the original generations. That started phasing out in gen 4 because shoddy lacked the first 3 generations, but really, I'm not sure why it's so accepted now to only be competent at the most recent generation because this site has never accepted that. We are, simply and completely, a competitive Pokemon website, and that encompasses a lot more than just the current generation's standard OU. Of all official tournaments, this one most encompasses all that we are.
Another thing you should know from being a staff member here is that we're working on improving our VGC involvement at smogon - and initiative coming from chaos right on down. You apparently missed the memo that we've had embarrassingly poor coverage of VGC since the PR disaster that was JAA in 2006 and are working to repair that, because while most of Smogon plays OU singles, most of the playerbase of Pokemon play's TPCI's game, and
as a competitive Pokemon site it's our job to try to appeal to as many competitive players as we can. We run and play a niche metagame here with OU, and we should continue doing so to the best of our ability. But there's more to Pokemon than the games we manage, and this is a bone to what is a much larger worldwide VGC community than most people here want to realize.
undisputed said:
or maybe i got confused as to why we write analyses for standard ou and not vgc.
Pity that's not in the works....
Wait
undisputed said:
just want equal representation for the interests of everyone on this site.
And if you think you're fooling anyone you're delusional. You want a format that maximizes the chances of you getting a spot. You aren't convincing anyone you're a martyr.