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Here are the explanations quziel, our Section Leader for this stage, has provided for each of the options. In addition, please refer to the Stats Submission thread here to make an educated decision when submitting your ballot!
Explosion Badger
Optional Defining Moves: Boomburst, Knock Off, Parting Shot, Spikes
This is probably the scariest spread to actually switch into of any submitted so far. 105 Special Attack Boomburst, at this speed tier is downright a bit terrifying. That said, 90 Speed is still only just good, and not great, and the bulk, especially on the physical side definitely implies that you'll need a lot of Volt-Turn support to really leverage this spread's upsides.
Wulfanator
Optional Defining Moves: Bitter Blade
Wulf has submitted nerfed Ceruledge stats, featuring Bitter Blade, great special bulk, and the potential to just live forever by healing. While Ceruledge obviously hits a bit harder, at a faster speed tier, we have an actual secondary STAB move to abuse in Espeed. Compared to the rest of our slate, Wulf's spread has exceptional special bulk, getting really close to the limit, letting us definitely think about switching into a lot of walls that other spreads may struggle with. That said, its physical bulk really isn't amazing.
Brambane
Optional Defining Moves: Heat Crash (100 BP vs Clodsire & Iron Treads), Knock Off, Parting Shot, Spikes, Taunt, Will-o-Wisp
Brambane's spread goes after another low stats but high impact mon from mons history, Talonflame. While it does have a lower attack than any other physical spread, it has a high enough speed that you can start to force out basically every other offensive mon with either of your stabs, instead of relying purely on Espeed to do so. Beyond that its speed stat is actually so high that you can still outrun Timid Iron Moth even with an Adamant nature.
Dex
Optional Defining Moves: Bitter Blade, Knock Off, Taunt
During stat limits, I was persuaded to raise the ceiling for Attack from 125 to 130, as letting us revenge kill literally every single Fairy weak sweeper in the tier was something a lot of folks thought would be interesting. Dex's spread uses that fact to force a guaranteed KO in Bax, even without needing Tera, Band, or any chip. Outside of that, its a relatively slow spread, reminiscient of Scizor, with functional but not great bulk. This definitely outlines one edge of our design space.
Lasen
Optional Defining Moves: Boomburst, Torch Song, Thunderbolt
Torch Song was brought up fairly often during Defining Moves, as a very interesting hybrid between usable Fire STAB, and also a potential sweeping option. Lasen's spread definitely evokes Serperior, in that it can potentially use that hybrid move to create a lot of space. That said, it also has a very noted weakness in its spdef, balancing out its pretty great physdef. This is a very unique route from the rest of the field, and would give us a very interesting mon.
Kenn
Optional Defining Moves: Heat Crash (80 BP vs Jumbao), Knock Off, Will-o-Wisp, Taunt, Spikes
Unlike most of the rest of the physical attacking spreads, Kenn's submission has little doubt that it would run both Espeed, and Double Edge. Its attack is just at the point where you start OHKO'ing valiant with Espeed, and while this is lower than the rest of the slated physical spreads, the ability to run Edge, thanks to a high HP and speed stat definitely means that its not going to be hitting that much weaker than its competition.
Viol and Bass
Optional Defining Moves: Boomburst, Knock Off, Spikes, Parting Shot, 50% Recovery
One of the ideas that's been thrown around a lot is the fantasy of Espeed + Boomburst. Of all the spreads on the slate, I think Viol and Bass's spread is most capable of running this combo regularly, as it has high enough special attack to make Boomburst into a proper nuke of a move, and low enough speed that it Extreme Speed will provide intense utility for it. It also has the highest overall bulk of any spread on the slate, giving it a very unique playstyle among the others slated.
Binacle Pinnacle
Optional Defining Moves: Boomburst, Knock Off, Will-o-Wisp, 50% Recovery, Stealth Rock, Spikes, U-Turn
One of the examples of a medium stat -Ate abuser identified during Stat limit discussion was Noivern, and Binpin's spread matches, albeit at a lower overall power level, its combo of high speed, and solid special attack. This spread also nearly maxes out the special tankiness limit for Boomburst spreads, allowing it to take a single Earth Power from Equlibra, making its inability to heavily Equlibra not nearly as impactful when it can't be OHKO'd back.
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As a reminder, defining moves being listed above does not mean that they will be given during the movepool stage, rather that the stat spread creator has identified them as reasons that their spread may be weaker than its competition in some area, or as being important for calculations done when creating the stat spread.
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This will be a Ranked Pairs vote (RP) (a form of voting where each candidate is ranked according to head to head matchups with each of its competitors in a directed acyclic graph), the details of which were discussed here.
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The voting options are:
Please only put the bolded names of each user in your ballot. Those options are as follows:
Explosion Badger
Wulfanator
Brambane
dex
Lasen
kenn
viol and bass
Binacle Pinnacle
This poll will be open for 24 hours.
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Here are the explanations quziel, our Section Leader for this stage, has provided for each of the options. In addition, please refer to the Stats Submission thread here to make an educated decision when submitting your ballot!
Explosion Badger
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
75 | 76 | 60 | 105 | 84 | 90 | 79.37 | 106.37 | 64.70 | 84.71 | 458.34 |
This is probably the scariest spread to actually switch into of any submitted so far. 105 Special Attack Boomburst, at this speed tier is downright a bit terrifying. That said, 90 Speed is still only just good, and not great, and the bulk, especially on the physical side definitely implies that you'll need a lot of Volt-Turn support to really leverage this spread's upsides.
Wulfanator
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
74 | 121 | 55 | 79 | 106 | 75 | 104.14 | 77.49 | 60.16 | 101.97 | 474.81 |
Wulf has submitted nerfed Ceruledge stats, featuring Bitter Blade, great special bulk, and the potential to just live forever by healing. While Ceruledge obviously hits a bit harder, at a faster speed tier, we have an actual secondary STAB move to abuse in Espeed. Compared to the rest of our slate, Wulf's spread has exceptional special bulk, getting really close to the limit, letting us definitely think about switching into a lot of walls that other spreads may struggle with. That said, its physical bulk really isn't amazing.
Brambane
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
70 | 95 | 60 | 50 | 85 | 127 | 112.82 | 73.07 | 62.49 | 82.64 | 473.89 |
Brambane's spread goes after another low stats but high impact mon from mons history, Talonflame. While it does have a lower attack than any other physical spread, it has a high enough speed that you can start to force out basically every other offensive mon with either of your stabs, instead of relying purely on Espeed to do so. Beyond that its speed stat is actually so high that you can still outrun Timid Iron Moth even with an Adamant nature.
Dex
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
80 | 130 | 70 | 50 | 90 | 60 | 98.19 | 51.28 | 75.46 | 92.64 | 468.67 |
During stat limits, I was persuaded to raise the ceiling for Attack from 125 to 130, as letting us revenge kill literally every single Fairy weak sweeper in the tier was something a lot of folks thought would be interesting. Dex's spread uses that fact to force a guaranteed KO in Bax, even without needing Tera, Band, or any chip. Outside of that, its a relatively slow spread, reminiscient of Scizor, with functional but not great bulk. This definitely outlines one edge of our design space.
Lasen
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
75 | 55 | 109 | 80 | 50 | 111 | 71.22 | 98.29 | 105.19 | 56.96 | 454.89 |
Torch Song was brought up fairly often during Defining Moves, as a very interesting hybrid between usable Fire STAB, and also a potential sweeping option. Lasen's spread definitely evokes Serperior, in that it can potentially use that hybrid move to create a lot of space. That said, it also has a very noted weakness in its spdef, balancing out its pretty great physdef. This is a very unique route from the rest of the field, and would give us a very interesting mon.
Kenn
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
103 | 103 | 55 | 40 | 58 | 103 | 111.96 | 59.54 | 72.18 | 75.43 | 474.92 |
Unlike most of the rest of the physical attacking spreads, Kenn's submission has little doubt that it would run both Espeed, and Double Edge. Its attack is just at the point where you start OHKO'ing valiant with Espeed, and while this is lower than the rest of the slated physical spreads, the ability to run Edge, thanks to a high HP and speed stat definitely means that its not going to be hitting that much weaker than its competition.
Viol and Bass
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
90 | 99 | 89 | 99 | 97 | 55 | 75.56 | 79.61 | 97.78 | 105.00 | 476.63 |
One of the ideas that's been thrown around a lot is the fantasy of Espeed + Boomburst. Of all the spreads on the slate, I think Viol and Bass's spread is most capable of running this combo regularly, as it has high enough special attack to make Boomburst into a proper nuke of a move, and low enough speed that it Extreme Speed will provide intense utility for it. It also has the highest overall bulk of any spread on the slate, giving it a very unique playstyle among the others slated.
Binacle Pinnacle
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | |
70 | 61 | 55 | 80 | 113 | 121 | 78.94 | 100.77 | 58.50 | 104.71 | 461.86 |
One of the examples of a medium stat -Ate abuser identified during Stat limit discussion was Noivern, and Binpin's spread matches, albeit at a lower overall power level, its combo of high speed, and solid special attack. This spread also nearly maxes out the special tankiness limit for Boomburst spreads, allowing it to take a single Earth Power from Equlibra, making its inability to heavily Equlibra not nearly as impactful when it can't be OHKO'd back.
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As a reminder, defining moves being listed above does not mean that they will be given during the movepool stage, rather that the stat spread creator has identified them as reasons that their spread may be weaker than its competition in some area, or as being important for calculations done when creating the stat spread.
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This will be a Ranked Pairs vote (RP) (a form of voting where each candidate is ranked according to head to head matchups with each of its competitors in a directed acyclic graph), the details of which were discussed here.
This is a ranked vote: order does matter! You can upvote your favorites and downvote your least favorites. You may choose to rank as many or as few options as you like, but we encourage you to rank as many options as possible to ensure your preferences are taken into account.
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The voting options are:
HP | Atk | Def | SpA | SpD | Spe | PS | SS | PT | ST | BSR | User | ||
75 | 76 | 60 | 105 | 84 | 90 | 79.37 | 106.37 | 64.70 | 84.71 | 458.34 | Explosion Badger | ||
74 | 121 | 55 | 79 | 106 | 75 | 104.14 | 77.49 | 60.16 | 101.97 | 474.81 | Wulfanator | ||
70 | 95 | 60 | 50 | 85 | 127 | 112.82 | 73.07 | 62.49 | 82.64 | 473.89 | Brambane | ||
80 | 130 | 70 | 50 | 90 | 60 | 98.19 | 51.28 | 75.46 | 92.64 | 468.67 | dex | ||
75 | 55 | 109 | 80 | 50 | 111 | 71.22 | 98.29 | 105.19 | 56.96 | 454.89 | Lasen | ||
103 | 103 | 55 | 40 | 58 | 103 | 111.96 | 59.54 | 72.18 | 75.43 | 474.92 | kenn | ||
90 | 99 | 89 | 99 | 97 | 55 | 75.56 | 79.61 | 97.78 | 105.00 | 476.63 | viol and bass | ||
70 | 61 | 55 | 80 | 113 | 121 | 78.94 | 100.77 | 58.50 | 104.71 | 461.86 | Binacle Pinnacle |
Please only put the bolded names of each user in your ballot. Those options are as follows:
Explosion Badger
Wulfanator
Brambane
dex
Lasen
kenn
viol and bass
Binacle Pinnacle
This poll will be open for 24 hours.