Hey guys brawl here! Alright this got approved so its time to kick it off. The goal of this thread is as follows. Each week a specific threat or core will be chosen, and each person's goal will be to come up with a Pokemon that can effectively nullify the threat selected that week. When nominating a pokemon, make sure that you give a valid description as to why it is an effective counter to the selected threat, and make sure that it is a true counter, and not just a check. At the end of each week, a voting period will ensue in which everybody will vote for a single nomination as the most effective counter to the selected threat of the week. Feel free to discuss and post in the thread, but make sure you only nominate 1x per week to give everybody equal opportunity! Below is an example nomination.
Archeops @ Life Orb
Ability: Defeatist
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Hasty Nature
- Stone Edge
- Heat Wave / Earth Power
- Roost
- Knock Off / U-turn
Shiftry @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Lonely Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Defog
The threat of the first week is a Shiftry Archeops core. Offensively this core takes advantage of two of NU's best mixed attackers, and use their powerful offensive synergy to decimate the NU tier. Shiftry's powerful Knock Off and Sucker Punch bait in physical walls to be wrecked by a STAB Leaf Storm, and Archeops can come in to clean up teams with a wide range of coverage options. On top of this, Shiftry's defog supports Archeops well, as it can prevent it from reaching Defeatist, and allow it to fire of nukes more consistently without having to roost as often.
Counter:
Miltank @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Def / 96 Spd
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Milk Drink
- Ice Punch
Second Week:
Seismitoad @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Knock Off / Toxic
- Stealth Rock
Vileplume @ Black Sludge
Ability: Effect Spore
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 SpD
Bold Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder / Aromatherapy / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Synthesis
Back to basics. I'm sure we are very farmiliar with this core, but simply put it still finds itself to be one of the best. VileToad easily walls the majority of the tier, and with amazing defensive synergy finds itself one of the most solid pivot cores to accompany any team, and are easily applicable to most teams as well, offensive and defensive. Taking advantage of their stellar bulk and typing, they offer tons of support, with Seismitoad switching into most Special Attackers with only a single weakness, knocking items, burning, spreading toxic, and setting up stealth rocks. On the other end, Vileplume is capable of checking most physical attackers with its powerful bulk, while sleeping or clericing its own team.
Have fun countering, week goes until next saturday!
Winners Box:
Week 1 - srk1214
Threat: Specs Typhlosion
Counter:
Dragalge @ Assault Vest
Ability: Poison Point
EVs: 252 SAtk / 248 HP / 8 Spd
- Hydro Pump
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Draco Meteor
Dragalge's already titanic 123 base Special Defense further boosted by Assault Vest allows it to consistantly switch into any moves that Typhlosion has. Resisting all of Typhlosion's STAB and coverage moves in Eruption, Fire Blast, HP Grass, and Focus Blast, Dragalge's Dragon / Poison typing gives it a massive boon in defeating Typhlosion.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Dragalge: 99-117 (29.6 - 35%) -- 17.8% chance to 3HKO
As shown by the calc above, Modest Typhlosion's single strongest move which is known for being essentially a guarantee'd OHKO on any switch in results in a 17% chance for a 3HKO against Dragalge, immediatly forcing it out. Because of these reasons, Dragalge makes for an effective counter towards Typhlosion!
Counter:
Dragalge @ Assault Vest
Ability: Poison Point
EVs: 252 SAtk / 248 HP / 8 Spd
- Hydro Pump
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Draco Meteor
Dragalge's already titanic 123 base Special Defense further boosted by Assault Vest allows it to consistantly switch into any moves that Typhlosion has. Resisting all of Typhlosion's STAB and coverage moves in Eruption, Fire Blast, HP Grass, and Focus Blast, Dragalge's Dragon / Poison typing gives it a massive boon in defeating Typhlosion.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Dragalge: 99-117 (29.6 - 35%) -- 17.8% chance to 3HKO
As shown by the calc above, Modest Typhlosion's single strongest move which is known for being essentially a guarantee'd OHKO on any switch in results in a 17% chance for a 3HKO against Dragalge, immediatly forcing it out. Because of these reasons, Dragalge makes for an effective counter towards Typhlosion!
Archeops @ Life Orb
Ability: Defeatist
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Hasty Nature
- Stone Edge
- Heat Wave / Earth Power
- Roost
- Knock Off / U-turn
Shiftry @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Lonely Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Defog
The threat of the first week is a Shiftry Archeops core. Offensively this core takes advantage of two of NU's best mixed attackers, and use their powerful offensive synergy to decimate the NU tier. Shiftry's powerful Knock Off and Sucker Punch bait in physical walls to be wrecked by a STAB Leaf Storm, and Archeops can come in to clean up teams with a wide range of coverage options. On top of this, Shiftry's defog supports Archeops well, as it can prevent it from reaching Defeatist, and allow it to fire of nukes more consistently without having to roost as often.
Counter:
Miltank @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Def / 96 Spd
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Milk Drink
- Ice Punch
Second Week:
Seismitoad @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Knock Off / Toxic
- Stealth Rock
Vileplume @ Black Sludge
Ability: Effect Spore
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 SpD
Bold Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder / Aromatherapy / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Synthesis
Back to basics. I'm sure we are very farmiliar with this core, but simply put it still finds itself to be one of the best. VileToad easily walls the majority of the tier, and with amazing defensive synergy finds itself one of the most solid pivot cores to accompany any team, and are easily applicable to most teams as well, offensive and defensive. Taking advantage of their stellar bulk and typing, they offer tons of support, with Seismitoad switching into most Special Attackers with only a single weakness, knocking items, burning, spreading toxic, and setting up stealth rocks. On the other end, Vileplume is capable of checking most physical attackers with its powerful bulk, while sleeping or clericing its own team.
Have fun countering, week goes until next saturday!
Winners Box:
Week 1 - srk1214
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