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Jolteon [Done :D]
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Ok, I'll change that. Thanks!!!
Ok, I'm not the best writer, so I could use some help if you don't mind. Is there a specific area that could use some work, or is it all of it?
Take a look at my Chandelure analysis. You need to put more detail in your writing. Give examples of what your moves will actually hit that are useful in this metagame. Stuff like Rain teams fear Jolteon's Thunderbolt. Garchomp, Latias, Hydreigon get hit hard by HP Ice. Thunder Wave cripples fast weather abusers, and scarf pokemon, and allow Jolteon to act as a supporter in various ways.
You pretty much list the attacks, but don't give any solid reasoning behind using them. Give examples. Make the reader know exactly how to use the moves.
You pretty much list the attacks, but don't give any solid reasoning behind using them. Give examples. Make the reader know exactly how to use the moves.
Ok, hopefully this helps.
Yeah... here let me just do this:
GP: 1 / 3
Since I pretty much had to rewrite most of it, I'm going to ask that two more GPers check the work.
Jolteon
[Overview]
<p>Jolteon has always been a staple throughout the generations, but takes a step back in this metagame. Known for its high Special Attack and insane Speed stat, Jolteon acts as an effective and speedy attacker in this metagame. However, the emergence of Thundurus has dampened its presence somewhat. Its movepool is also very shallow, as Jolteon must rely on a Hidden Power for a secondary attack. Nevertheless, in the right setting, Jolteon may be an effective pokemon for your team.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Sweeper
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Hidden Power [Ice] / Hidden Power [Grass]
move 3: Thunder Wave / Signal Beam
move 4: Protect
item: Focus Sash / Electric Gem
nature: Timid
ability: Volt Absorb
evs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set aims to take advantage of Jolteon's natural Speed and Special Attack. Thunderbolt is Jolteon's main way of dealing damage and is a reliable, powerful STAB move, hitting Tornadus, and the omnipresent Politoed and rain teams for super effective damage. Hidden Power is the best way to get some coverage with Jolteon's regrettably lackluster movepool, with Hidden Power Ice hitting Ground-types that wall Jolteon, such as Garchomp, as well as the ever popular Dragon-types; Hidden Power Grass hits Pokemon such as Swampert and Gastrodon for high damage. Thunder Wave is great for team support, crippling weather abusers such as Ludicolo, and allowing your teammates to outspeed threats. If you run a Trick Room team, or already have a teammate who can inflict status, Signal Beam is good for hitting Pokemon like Cresselia and Tyranitar for higher damage than Thunderbolt can. Protect is a staple on any VGC 2012 pokemon, and Jolteon is no exception, allowing a teammate to take out a counter.</p>
<p>Focus Sash is by far Jolteon's best item option due to its frailness; however, due to item clause, if another teammate is running Focus Sash, you may opt to use Electric Gem in order to boost Thunderbolt's strength.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>252 Speed EVs and Timid are used in order to outspeed Scarf Chandelure, +1 Blaziken, Swellow, Weavile, Alakazam, Dugtrio, Scarf Jellicent and Abomasnow, +2 Carracosta, Azelf, Starmie, and Timid Raikou. 252 Special Attack EVs are used in order maximize the damage Jolteon inflicts upon its enemies. A Modest nature is an option in order to boost Jolteon's attack further; nevertheless, the ability to outspeed the enemies listed above is far more important.</p>
<p>Volt Absorb is Jolteon's ability of choice, as it gives Jolteon an immunity to Electric-type attacks, allowing it to switch in on Zapdos, Rotom-W and others. Jolteon is unable to switch in into many attacks due to its frailty, so this ability is a godsend for Jolteon. Also, if you're running a rain team, Thunder is recommended over Thunderbolt for the added power, although you must watch out for weather changers such as Tyranitar and Ninetales, which can leave Jolteon with an inaccurate STAB attack.</p>
[OTHER OPTIONS]
<p>Jolteon has an admittedly lackluster offensive movepool, but he has a variety of support options to consider, including Light Screen, Reflect, Helping Hand, Rain Dance and even Agility with Baton Pass. Cresselia is arguably better at setting up dual screens and using Helping Hand due to its bulk; however, due to Jolteon's speed, dual screens may be viable on Jolteon. Jolteon also has the highest speed out of all Rain Dance users, allowing it to act as a Rain Dance supporter. </p>
<p>Although its already faster than most pokemon in the VGC 2012 metagame, Jolteon's Dream World ability Quick Feet can be used in conjunction with a Flame or Toxic Orb in order to outspeed everything in the game, making it a very good Tailwind counter. However, the loss of focus sash hampers its survivability on the field by a good deal, and since Jolteon already outspeeds most of the metagame anyways, Jolteon is better suited in using Volt Absorb. </p>
<p>Discharge can work as an Electric-type STAB move, allowing Jolteon to hit both opponents, but unless you are running a Ground-type pokemon or a pokemon with the ability Telepathy as a teammate, Thunderbolt is typically better, as it doesn't hit your partner. Volt Switch is an option that allows Jolteon to switch out of its counters and lengthens its longevity in battle. </p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Jolteon's biggest weakness are fast physical priority attacks, and Earthquake. Enemies such as Hitmontop, Toxicroak and others who possess a priority physical attack do massive damage on Jolteon due to its weak defenses, while negating its Speed. Status also cripples it, especially Paralysis. Pokemon like Whimsicott can Stun Spore Jolteon, crippling it by quartering its Speed, its main tool on the battlefield. However, take note that Jolteon is immune to Thunder Wave due to its Volt Absorb Ability. Attacks that lower Jolteon's Speed such as Icy Wind, will also cripple Jolteon. Perhaps its biggest counter is Trick Room, where Jolteon becomes the slowest pokemon on the field, while the slow and bulky Ground-types such as Gastrodon and Rhyperior can outspeed and KO it.</p>
GP: 1 / 3
wow, I was that bad? Ok, I'm fixing it.
bumping, still in need of GP checks.
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Eraddd, remember - it's wiser to request for a third GP Check if your GP check is the second, as you will then have a better idea of the analysis's status from a grammatical viewpoint. Anyway, you did a pretty good job, and I think I caught everything you missed, so this analysis should be done now.
GP 2 / 2
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[Overview]
<p>Jolteon has always been a staple throughout the generations, but sadly, it takes a step back in this metagame. Known for its high Special Attack and insane Speed stat, Jolteon acts still plays as an effective and speedy attacker in this metagame. However, but the emergence of Thundurus has dampened its presence somewhat. Its movepool is also very shallow; as Jolteon must rely on a Hidden Power for a secondary attack. Nevertheless, in with the right setting support, Jolteon may can be an effective pokemon for your team very difficult to stop, and this merits its use on most teams in VGC 2012.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Sweeper
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Thunder Wave / Signal Beam
move 4: Protect
item: Focus Sash / Electric Gem
nature: Timid
ability: Volt Absorb
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set aims to take advantage of Jolteon's natural high Speed and Special Attack. Thunderbolt is Jolteon's main way of dealing damage, and is a reliable, powerful STAB move, hitting Tornadus, and the omnipresent Politoed and rain teams for super effective damage. Hidden Power is the best way to get some coverage with Jolteon's regrettably lackluster movepool, with; Hidden Power Ice hits Ground-types that wall Jolteon, such as Garchomp, as well as the ever popular Dragon-types, while Hidden Power Grass hits Pokemon eliminates threats such as Swampert and Gastrodon which otherwise wall Jolteon for high damage. Thunder Wave is great for team support, crippling weather abusers such as Ludicolo, and allowing your teammates to outspeed threats. However, if you run a Trick Room team, or already have a teammate who can inflict status, Signal Beam is good for hitting Pokemon like such as Cresselia and Tyranitar for higher damage than Thunderbolt can. Protect is a staple on any VGC 2012 Pokemon, and Jolteon is no exception, allowing a teammate to take out a counter.</p>
<p>Focus Sash is by far Jolteon's best item option due to its frailness; however, due to item clause, if another teammate is running Focus Sash, you may opt to use Electric Gem in order to boost Thunderbolt's strength.</p> (Talk about items only in AC; not Set Comments; read the Analysis Formatting Guide for more details.)
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>252 Speed EVs and a Timid nature are used in order to outspeed threats such as Choice Scarf Chandelure, Abomasnow, and Jellicent, +1 Blaziken, Swellow, Weavile, Alakazam, Dugtrio, Scarf Jellicent and Abomasnow, +2 Carracosta, Azelf, Starmie, and Timid Raikou. (woah, woah. You don't need to mention all these - 4-5 should be enough. I leave this up to you, so mention only the most important threats) 252 Special Attack EVs are used in order maximize the damage Jolteon's damage output inflicts upon its enemies. A Modest nature is an option in order to boost Jolteon's Special Attack further; nevertheless, the ability to outspeed the enemies listed above is far more important. Focus Sash is by far Jolteon's best item option due to its frailness. However, due to item clause, if another teammate is running Focus Sash, you may opt to use Electric Gem in order to boost Thunderbolt's strength.</p>
<p>Volt Absorb is Jolteon's ability of choice, as it gives Jolteon it an immunity to Electric-type attacks, allowing it to switch in on Zapdos, Rotom-W and others. This is truly a godsend, as Joleon's frailty doesn't give it too many opportunities to switch in Jolteon is unable to switch in into many attacks due to its frailty, so this ability is a godsend for Jolteon. Also, if you're running a rain team, Thunder is recommended over Thunderbolt for the added power, although you must watch out for weather changers such as Tyranitar and Ninetales, which can leave Jolteon with an inaccurate STAB attack.</p>
[OTHER OPTIONS]
<p>Jolteon's has an admittedly lackluster offensive movepool is admittedly lackluster, but he it has a variety of support options to consider, including Light Screen, Reflect, Helping Hand, Rain Dance, and even Agility with Baton Pass. Cresselia is arguably better at setting up dual screens and using Helping Hand due to its bulk; however, due to Jolteon's Speed, dual screens may be a viable option on Jolteon. Jolteon also has the highest Speed out of all Rain Dance users, allowing it to act as an effective Rain Dance supporter.</p>
<p>Although it is already faster than most Pokemon in the VGC 2012 metagame, Jolteon's Dream World ability Quick Feet can be used in conjunction with a Flame or Toxic Orb in order to outspeed everything in the game, making it a very good Tailwind counter. However, the loss of Focus Sash hampers its survivability on the field Jolteon's longevity by a good deal, and since Jolteon it already outspeeds most of the metagame anyways, Jolteon is better suited in off just using Volt Absorb.</p>
<p>Discharge can work as an Electric-type STAB move, allowing Jolteon to hit both opponents, but unless you are running a Ground-type pokemon or a Pokemon with the ability Telepathy as a teammate partner, Thunderbolt is typically better, as it doesn't hit your Jolteon's partner. (remember, ''you / your'' refer to the player, not the Pokemon) Volt Switch is an option that allows Jolteon to switch out of its counters while still dealing decent damage, but Ground-types will render it useless and lengthens its longevity in battle.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Jolteon's biggest weaknesses are fast physical priority attacks, and Earthquake. Enemies such as Hitmontop, Toxicroak, and others who possess a priority physical attack do massive damage on Jolteon due to its weak defenses, while negating its bypassing Jolteon's high Speed. Status also cripples it, especially paralysis; Pokemon like such as Whimsicott thus make great checks, as they can Stun Spore Jolteon, crippling it by quartering its Speed, its main tool on the battlefield. However, take note that Jolteon is immune to Thunder Wave due to its Volt Absorb Ability. Attacks that lower Jolteon's Speed, such as Icy Wind, will also cripple Jolteon it. Perhaps its biggest counter is Trick Room, where Jolteon becomes the slowest Pokemon on the field; while the slow, and bulky Ground-types such as Gastrodon and Rhyperior can now outspeed and KO it.</p>
<p>Jolteon has always been a staple throughout the generations, but sadly, it takes a step back in this metagame. Known for its high Special Attack and insane Speed stat, Jolteon acts still plays as an effective and speedy attacker in this metagame. However, but the emergence of Thundurus has dampened its presence somewhat. Its movepool is also very shallow; as Jolteon must rely on a Hidden Power for a secondary attack. Nevertheless, in with the right setting support, Jolteon may can be an effective pokemon for your team very difficult to stop, and this merits its use on most teams in VGC 2012.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Sweeper
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Thunder Wave / Signal Beam
move 4: Protect
item: Focus Sash / Electric Gem
nature: Timid
ability: Volt Absorb
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set aims to take advantage of Jolteon's natural high Speed and Special Attack. Thunderbolt is Jolteon's main way of dealing damage, and is a reliable, powerful STAB move, hitting Tornadus, and the omnipresent Politoed and rain teams for super effective damage. Hidden Power is the best way to get some coverage with Jolteon's regrettably lackluster movepool, with; Hidden Power Ice hits Ground-types that wall Jolteon, such as Garchomp, as well as the ever popular Dragon-types, while Hidden Power Grass hits Pokemon eliminates threats such as Swampert and Gastrodon which otherwise wall Jolteon for high damage. Thunder Wave is great for team support, crippling weather abusers such as Ludicolo, and allowing your teammates to outspeed threats. However, if you run a Trick Room team, or already have a teammate who can inflict status, Signal Beam is good for hitting Pokemon like such as Cresselia and Tyranitar for higher damage than Thunderbolt can. Protect is a staple on any VGC 2012 Pokemon, and Jolteon is no exception, allowing a teammate to take out a counter.</p>
<p>Focus Sash is by far Jolteon's best item option due to its frailness; however, due to item clause, if another teammate is running Focus Sash, you may opt to use Electric Gem in order to boost Thunderbolt's strength.</p> (Talk about items only in AC; not Set Comments; read the Analysis Formatting Guide for more details.)
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>252 Speed EVs and a Timid nature are used in order to outspeed threats such as Choice Scarf Chandelure, Abomasnow, and Jellicent, +1 Blaziken, Swellow, Weavile, Alakazam, Dugtrio, Scarf Jellicent and Abomasnow, +2 Carracosta, Azelf, Starmie, and Timid Raikou. (woah, woah. You don't need to mention all these - 4-5 should be enough. I leave this up to you, so mention only the most important threats) 252 Special Attack EVs are used in order maximize the damage Jolteon's damage output inflicts upon its enemies. A Modest nature is an option in order to boost Jolteon's Special Attack further; nevertheless, the ability to outspeed the enemies listed above is far more important. Focus Sash is by far Jolteon's best item option due to its frailness. However, due to item clause, if another teammate is running Focus Sash, you may opt to use Electric Gem in order to boost Thunderbolt's strength.</p>
<p>Volt Absorb is Jolteon's ability of choice, as it gives Jolteon it an immunity to Electric-type attacks, allowing it to switch in on Zapdos, Rotom-W and others. This is truly a godsend, as Joleon's frailty doesn't give it too many opportunities to switch in Jolteon is unable to switch in into many attacks due to its frailty, so this ability is a godsend for Jolteon. Also, if you're running a rain team, Thunder is recommended over Thunderbolt for the added power, although you must watch out for weather changers such as Tyranitar and Ninetales, which can leave Jolteon with an inaccurate STAB attack.</p>
[OTHER OPTIONS]
<p>Jolteon's has an admittedly lackluster offensive movepool is admittedly lackluster, but he it has a variety of support options to consider, including Light Screen, Reflect, Helping Hand, Rain Dance, and even Agility with Baton Pass. Cresselia is arguably better at setting up dual screens and using Helping Hand due to its bulk; however, due to Jolteon's Speed, dual screens may be a viable option on Jolteon. Jolteon also has the highest Speed out of all Rain Dance users, allowing it to act as an effective Rain Dance supporter.</p>
<p>Although it is already faster than most Pokemon in the VGC 2012 metagame, Jolteon's Dream World ability Quick Feet can be used in conjunction with a Flame or Toxic Orb in order to outspeed everything in the game, making it a very good Tailwind counter. However, the loss of Focus Sash hampers its survivability on the field Jolteon's longevity by a good deal, and since Jolteon it already outspeeds most of the metagame anyways, Jolteon is better suited in off just using Volt Absorb.</p>
<p>Discharge can work as an Electric-type STAB move, allowing Jolteon to hit both opponents, but unless you are running a Ground-type pokemon or a Pokemon with the ability Telepathy as a teammate partner, Thunderbolt is typically better, as it doesn't hit your Jolteon's partner. (remember, ''you / your'' refer to the player, not the Pokemon) Volt Switch is an option that allows Jolteon to switch out of its counters while still dealing decent damage, but Ground-types will render it useless and lengthens its longevity in battle.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Jolteon's biggest weaknesses are fast physical priority attacks, and Earthquake. Enemies such as Hitmontop, Toxicroak, and others who possess a priority physical attack do massive damage on Jolteon due to its weak defenses, while negating its bypassing Jolteon's high Speed. Status also cripples it, especially paralysis; Pokemon like such as Whimsicott thus make great checks, as they can Stun Spore Jolteon, crippling it by quartering its Speed, its main tool on the battlefield. However, take note that Jolteon is immune to Thunder Wave due to its Volt Absorb Ability. Attacks that lower Jolteon's Speed, such as Icy Wind, will also cripple Jolteon it. Perhaps its biggest counter is Trick Room, where Jolteon becomes the slowest Pokemon on the field; while the slow, and bulky Ground-types such as Gastrodon and Rhyperior can now outspeed and KO it.</p>
Eraddd, remember - it's wiser to request for a third GP Check if your GP check is the second, as you will then have a better idea of the analysis's status from a grammatical viewpoint. Anyway, you did a pretty good job, and I think I caught everything you missed, so this analysis should be done now.
GP 2 / 2
wow, just noticed that check. Fixing it up as posted, and then this is done :D.
Thunderbolt is Jolteon's main way of dealing damage, and is a reliable, powerful STAB move hitting Tornadus, and the omnipresent Politoed and rain teams for super effective damage.</p>
Why thunderbolt over discharge?
Discharge hits the partner, so unless you're using lots of Pokemon immune to Electric, it puts you at a tactical disadvantage by forcing Protect.