Actually I heard it on the news announcement first... The pictures clearly depict Jax counterjungling Ryze.jungle jax will be new op
you heard it here first folks
Ashe is really a subpar AD Carry, and is really only useful for her never ending slow and her Ult.So recently I have been trying to expand my hero pool by trying out different characters.
I've gotten pretty good at Master Yi and Blitzcrank.
I spent my IP on Ashe and Tristana to try and get good at a ranged character but they didnt work out for me.
Any ideas on a good ranged character to try out?
Of course not every character is OP and UP, but if you honestly think that all champions in a role are in the same level your ignorant. There are champions that are just better than others.I'm bored of that "Ashe UP" bullshit, when will people understand that Ashe is an Utility carry (and not an AD carry), and that she is supposed to make less damage because she has a built-in 3s stun, a free CV and lot of slows instead of steroids ?
Well, if top Elo players do not pick Ashe, I guess she is bad ? =)
Not long ago, on this thread I said some "facts" about LoL, one of them was "Tryndamere is a strong solotop", people said I was wrong and that he had no sustain, 1month later, Tryndamere is "DA MOST OP SOLOTOP EVAR".
People only listen to tier lists and top ELO players, but anyone who ever played Pantheon mid or top will tell you how strong of a laner he is, anyone who ever played Warwick solotop will tell you how unkillable he is,...
Warwick for example, was played by some chinese teams during tournaments and had great success, same goes for Ezreal,...
Stop thinking OP or UP, no one is OP or UP, if it was the case, you would see the same 10 heroes every match (5 in blind pick), even more in tournaments.
Saying "whatever, this hero is OP" only makes you a bad player, it's all about counterpicking.
Define what you call "better". How do you define that something is better than something different ? How do you define that having Vayne's true damage is better than having Ashe permaslow ? You could say some champions are better than other if their kit was exactly the same but with different numbers, which is not the case.Of course not every character is OP and UP, but if you honestly think that all champions in a role are in the same level your ignorant. There are champions that are just better than others.
Yes Ashe has "potential" and shes certainly amazing when a team is built around here, but this is Solo Q, there are no professionals here, to make amazing teams using ok champions.
There's a reason why people listen to tiers and pro players, maybe because they know what they're doing because they do it for a living?
Tier List are there for a reason, to carry yourself in SoloQ where your teammates are most likely retarded. Not for 5v5s or even Duo Ques where there's someone who at least might know how to play champions. Stop using examples from TOURNMENTS. These are professionals who know their teammates and how to formulate a team. Theres a difference.
You HAVE to be able to CS with auto attacks if you want to play this champion, it may take some time to adapt, but not being able to CS without ability means losing your lane most of the time.Yeah I watch a lot of streams so I know most of that, but I definitely am a bit passive and that's probably one of my problems.
I think another problem is I miss CS if I don't use abilities, and I find myself going OOM if I do use abilities. And the reason I want to learn multiples of different champs is because I expect some of them to be picked/banned.
And I think I will spend some time learning Ryze and Annie until I have enough IP to buy Morgana and Karthus.
ok uhOther games I either destroyed 1 v 1 or 2 v 1. 4 of the last 5 games I've been solo top I've had to 2 v 1 the lane. Kind of irritating, but I trust myself to handle a 2 v 1 better than my teammates and I'm fine with rushing Warmogs/Frozen Mallet.
regarding all the argument surrounding ashe: I got into a similar argument on facebook recently and this was basically the summarizing post:Ashe is really a subpar AD Carry, and is really only useful for her never ending slow and her Ult.
"Better" can be defined by tournament play and how a champion holds up in lane. Arguably, it's hard to make a judgment call on whether Caitlyn is better than Vayne, but we can make certain hypotheses like "Kog'Maw typically loses to Caitlyn in lane" or "Sivir can only really be countered by Vayne or a good Graves player". From this we can build a generalization and say that "Sivir and Tristana are flavor of the month champions who are very powerful right now in the current metagame". Similarly, Ashe may be a great champion, but she's having a difficult time surviving in this Cleanse-heavy, Graves-popular meta.Define what you call "better". How do you define that something is better than something different ? How do you define that having Vayne's true damage is better than having Ashe permaslow ? You could say some champions are better than other if their kit was exactly the same but with different numbers, which is not the case.
The reason some champions are picked more often is because they fit in the metagame better (Who needs Ashe when the support carry wards and CV and the tank has an AoE CC ?), people like them (Zilean is way more used in US teams than EU teams), or because they can caught unprepared noobs from soloqueue easily (Shaco, Rammus,...).
I don't talk about Soloqueue because as you said, everyone here is retarded. If you watch some pro streams, you will realize that FeedShotGG (yeah, that guy who does like 0/5/2 90% of his games right now) did 11/0/5 every game with AP Shaco when he climbed the ladder.
LoCicero carry his team every game with Pantheon mid at Top ELO,...
In soloqueue, it's not about OP or UP, it's about "noobstomping" abilities. If you watch Doublelift, one of the best mechanical players in the game, he still got stomped by mid Pantheon because he wasn't paying attention and overextended. ELO doesn't matter, people still get fed or feed at top ELO, so what happens here isn't relevant.
And Tier List's are bullshit because they're based on popularity more than strenght, if you look at Elementz Solo Tier list, Twitch is fucking rank 5. Twitch is like the king of noobstomping in Solo queue, with Shaco, and this isn't the only one.
Always learn to last hit with autoattacks since you WILL run out of mana quickly early game if you keep last-hitting with abilities. In addition, you'll be pushing the lane. Once you get blue buff or a Tear, or if you're simply playing a push-heavy champion (morgana, cass, karthus), then you can start spamming abilities.play cass. i always had the same problems with being passive and last hitting as an AP, but cass makes both of those easier. i would really suggest playing some games with her whenever she's free, if you're anything like me you will end up being better with her than any of the others there
Elixir 6 pots is a waste, IMO. Most champions can get along fine starting cloth, regrowth, vamp scepter, boots, or doran's blade. Elixir is essentially a waste of 250 gold early game and you shouldn't be buying it unless you absolutely need it to jungle (which is highly unlikely in the new jungle).i usually just rush bloodthirster now on GP since i always am packing smite when i jungle him.instead of going cloth 5 potions i just get elixer 6 potions. sorta a high risk high reward playstyle but its been working out.
So... being "better" but only against some champs ? That's counterpicking, not strenght. Caitlyn may counter a lot of AD Carries early, but her late is subpar. Kog'Maw may have the best range and one of the strongest steroid late game, he is weak in early."Better" can be defined by tournament play and how a champion holds up in lane. Arguably, it's hard to make a judgment call on whether Caitlyn is better than Vayne, but we can make certain hypotheses like "Kog'Maw typically loses to Caitlyn in lane" or "Sivir can only really be countered by Vayne or a good Graves player". From this we can build a generalization and say that "Sivir and Tristana are flavor of the month champions who are very powerful right now in the current metagame". Similarly, Ashe may be a great champion, but she's having a difficult time surviving in this Cleanse-heavy, Graves-popular meta.
well for example in recent tournament matches, you've hardly ever seen miss fortune, ashe, twitch, teemo, or twisted fate used as an AD bot - this doesn't necessarily mean that they're bad champions, or even that they're bad bot lane champions, but just that it's difficult for them to survive in this current metagame as well as current top picks such as tristana or graves.So... being "better" but only against some champs ? That's counterpicking, not strenght. Caitlyn may counter a lot of AD Carries early, but her late is subpar. Kog'Maw may have the best range and one of the strongest steroid late game, he is weak in early.
Again, if the game was so imbalanced, you would see the same 10 heroes everymatch, so far, I've seen nearly every AD carry in the game in a tournament match, and nearly all champions too.
I tried Ryze again in a custom game vs a bot and I was last hitting fine. Problem was I was derpy a few months ago.You HAVE to be able to CS with auto attacks if you want to play this champion, it may take some time to adapt, but not being able to CS without ability means losing your lane most of the time.
You want to use your abilities to farm when : You need to push your lane to back/gank or put pressure on their tower (risky), your opponent is using his abilities too, you are taking some jungle creeps before going back to lane/your base.
I built that once when I was getting dominated in lane and my team had no one else to tank. Instead of calling me out, why not offer a build for that situation and not tell me (essentially) what I've already been building.i'm only really going to comment on how wrong this is:
ok uh
gp doesn't really get frozen mallet - the only reason to get mallet is the permaslow upgrade from Phage and gp already has a permaslow from his passive, otherwise it's just a bunch of hp and then like 20ad
gp (usually) goes wriggles->giants belt->finish warmog's or atma's->finish the one you didn't complete before and boots and some other items no one cares about
the problem with warmog's+mallet is that it makes you very tanky but you have no damageI built that once when I was getting dominated in lane and my team had no one else to tank. Instead of calling me out, why not offer a build for that situation and not tell me (essentially) what I've already been building.