Chii, it's impossible for any non-speed boosted ray to outspeed lugia, or at least a standard one. The standard carries 204 spd EVs to outspeed rayquaza specifically, and it carries reflect to essentially null ray's swords dance.
mtr, you may be right about lati@s switching in on earthquake or overheat, but i also think that no latias in her right mind will switch into a DDing or SDing rayquaza, unless it has a scarf.
We've established many times that they both have checks, if not counters; but what teammates do each of them need, then? In my experience, wobbuffet has been valuable to both of them with encore, as well as its ability to pick off bothersome scarfers. Apart from wobbuffet, at leat one other sweeper is usually needed with Ray, particularly DD, in order to finish the job, as i said before. between the outrage's locking effect and its confusion afterwards, Rayquaza is very likely to make a huge hole in the opponent's team, but very unlikely to get a perfect sweep. Things like kingdra, with rain support, are especially effective, as double STAB waterfall can usually finsish up the opponent's team when groudon and other bulky pokemon have been weakened (the former must be completely KO'd, otherwise the sun will make Kingdra useless).
What teammates do other people use to support ray?
mtr, you may be right about lati@s switching in on earthquake or overheat, but i also think that no latias in her right mind will switch into a DDing or SDing rayquaza, unless it has a scarf.
We've established many times that they both have checks, if not counters; but what teammates do each of them need, then? In my experience, wobbuffet has been valuable to both of them with encore, as well as its ability to pick off bothersome scarfers. Apart from wobbuffet, at leat one other sweeper is usually needed with Ray, particularly DD, in order to finish the job, as i said before. between the outrage's locking effect and its confusion afterwards, Rayquaza is very likely to make a huge hole in the opponent's team, but very unlikely to get a perfect sweep. Things like kingdra, with rain support, are especially effective, as double STAB waterfall can usually finsish up the opponent's team when groudon and other bulky pokemon have been weakened (the former must be completely KO'd, otherwise the sun will make Kingdra useless).
What teammates do other people use to support ray?