I'm slightly late to this conversation and I apologise if I'm dragging an old discussion up / rehashing some points already expressed in previous messages accidentally but nonetheless:
I really hate the way that a lot of LGBTQ+ people will often attempt to divert political issues which seemingly do not impact them to other spaces. To try and separate queerness from current conversations around police discrimination is first and foremost ignorant, but also seems to be an easy way for a lot of people to absolve themselves of their responsibility in situations like this - because many people seem to think as though their queerness is not inherently political, thus they shouldn't need to be involved in these conversations.
Even if the current mainstream conversation is largely centred around the racial discrimination in which the police continue to perpetuate rather than sexual/gender based discrimination, doesn't mean that we should be diverting these conversations to other spaces. It's important to keep in mind that we have queer black people in our community who will face BOTH racial and sexual/gender based discrimination from the police - and actively trying to dismiss and divert these important conversations around corruption in LGBTQ+ spaces because you deem them as "non-queer issues" shows a huge lack of regard for those people who will face said corruption in your community.
To separate the Stonewall riots and queerness from police reform/abolishment is...nonsensical to say the least. It was a very clear example of how the police force perpetuates bigotry and discrimination towards queer people. To abolish the police force is also to abolish police discrimination against all marginalised communities - which includes the LGBTQ+.
To your point:
I am late to this topic and convo, but I wanted to confirm, that you mean you want the police to be effectively removed?
Whatever replaces it will initially be seen as a better enforcement, but it could lead to the same pattern of power vs marginalized communities similar to the human nature to bully and ostracize anything (person, community, belief, etc.) seen as “Abnormal”, where the only way to relieve that group / individual is to demonstrate that they now or always did count as “normal”, or at least “natural” (such as someone going through a traumatic experience and no longer being “normal”, but it is “natural” that they feel nervous / panicked when around said bully... For example PTSD is a “natural” human response and has been accepted as a mental health legitimate condition and concern, rather than dismissed as simply “crazy”).
My advice:
Overall, we do need to be specific on patterns, and not just specific about historical reference points, which people can argue is a “one-off”, I think it would be more helpful to those who do not know our history, to go over patterns that plague a community,
For example, trans people are seen by law enforcement as prostitutes even if they are not, because in the evening the stigma is, “they are looking for a client”, even if they are simply waiting for a light to cross the street (similar to the way women are sometimes accused of being prostitutes, when judged by their attire, City, and time of day). Loitering does not equal prostitution, but to many police, sometimes implicit bias can override giving someone the benefit of the doubt. (There may be cases where certain cities have a high LGBT population, such as the Castro in SF, and so the culprit for those crimes are can be seen that it will more likely be LGBT person, because the LGBT is historically at a lower income rate, and are struggling to survive, but really it’s because that is the primary population of the area itself (more % of LGBT than straight people in that area).
Overall, Stonewall was an incident that became a historical reference point.
When we look at continuing patterns, we can acknowledge these problems are systemic, and persistent, rather than a one-off example.
I know your points were in agreement that the LGBT+ community is historically victimized, but I think it will be more effective to highlight how it continues, and where that stems from, such as the Trans / drag community becoming stereotyped as prostitutes, when they are out, or viewed as “dressed proactively” in the evening.
A dress is not an invitation, it is part of an outfit.