Direct quote, not my words: " I did the math, and with the 493 Pokemon, and assuming Zekrom is last in the pre-National Dex, there would be 143… so only 7 pokemon from previous generations show up in the Isshu Dex?! Or there could be some possible number jumbling, but it does look that there is a chance that *according to this rumor* Isshu will contain ALL NEW POKEMON."I lol'd...
And you have wet dreams about that, despite having gothmon hentai!?
And this can't work because the entire evolutionary family would need to be included too (imagine the game saying "404 ERROR GYARADOS NOT FOUND: Sorry! Your Magikarp can't evolve because Gyarados doesn't exist in this region!")
It's been suggested the 7 pokes are Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu, Magikarp, Gyarados, Tentacool, Tentacruel... but I can't see Pokemon like Machop and Goldeen and Zubat and Geodude suddenly missing a generation; they've been in every game this far, why stop now?
if we ignore all of the evo-stone pokes and we're assuming it truely is an evo, all of the possible fire types are Rapidash, Magcargo, houndoom, camerupt and torkoalActually, I had a funny thought recently: What if there were some other Fire-type needing an evolution? At that point, I was playing around with the idea of Ninetales gaining an extra evolution, though it seems that GF'll have to break the trend of Evoutionary Stone-evolved 'mons never evolve.
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And the furry fanbase rejoices.Wait, there's a pure Dragon type not in the original dex if memory serves me right.. maybe a.. EEVEE DRAGON-EVO!? YES!
... When was I "hating", exactly? I just don't like the concept of spriting fakemon, that's all. Did I really something offensive when I said my opinion?i respect your idea but i dont see why you hate. gamefreak workers are humans right? they are not robots like haunter here from the forums. and so they make sprites, if we make sprites ourselves then its not any different from the sprites they do, i like to think of us as unoficial sprite workers.
Sadly, this is the same fanbase that hated Hoenn for water, Gen. III in general for not having a lot of connectivity to Gens. I & II, hated Gen. IV because they weren't ENOUGH evolutions, as well as too many. Yes, the fanbase is that ridiculous.i prefer the idea of only new pokemons on the new dex myself, it add more to the metagame since we get more pokes then if gamefreak added old pokes. i would be happy with enough new pokemons to fill the dex with 600 pokemons but meh.
Yes, I'm saying that like in DPPt, you saw Machop, Geodude, Zubat, etc.. even though in the Sinnoh Dex they didn't appear, this could be the same case here.i respect your idea but i dont see why you hate. gamefreak workers are humans right? they are not robots like haunter here from the forums. and so they make sprites, if we make sprites ourselves then its not any different from the sprites they do, i like to think of us as unoficial sprite workers.
i prefer the idea of only new pokemons on the new dex myself, it add more to the metagame since we get more pokes then if gamefreak added old pokes. i would be happy with enough new pokemons to fill the dex with 600 pokemons but meh.
Have you tried evolving Golbat into Crobat in Leafgreen before getting the National Dex? :/And this can't work because the entire evolutionary family would need to be included too (imagine the game saying "404 ERROR GYARADOS NOT FOUND: Sorry! Your Magikarp can't evolve because Gyarados doesn't exist in this region!")
... Oh. Then that's fine, I guess.your words, you hate the thought of spriting fakemons, by no means you said anything offensive. please dont take me wrong. i was just saying that i respect your opinion and commenting why IMO there is no reason to dislike.
I'm actually chuckling at the fact that no one for some reason had the insane idea of thinking Banette's evolution will be Fire/Dark, to match Dusknoir finally. ... Yeah, I've seen rather weird speculation topics around.this is just going by things that haven't met the conditions that wouldn't let them to evolve further (evo stone poke, 2 evolutions, something that would contradict the typing in general {weavile lol} legendaries, etc.) if it's a branching evo then the list gets bigger.
i think GF stopped doing the "can't evolve before the national dex" thing, since in HGSS you can evolve things like piloswine and aipom before the national dex. (according to bulbapedia, it's because GF was flamed since people couldnt get their favorite pokemon :P)Have you tried evolving Golbat into Crobat in Leafgreen before getting the National Dex? :/
The problem was that you picked the wrong word for the job - "hate" is a bit too strong, it has implications, you know? "dislike" would probably have been a better choice.Also, I'm probably the only spriter on this corner of the Internet that refuses to sprite fakemon. Don't know why, just hate the thought.
your words, you hate the thought of spriting fakemons, by no means you said anything offensive. please dont take me wrong. i was just saying that i respect your opinion and commenting why IMO there is no reason to dislike.
True, I guess it just seems weird to me to be able to catch Pokemon that don't even register in the dex. I guess the more you think about it, the less the "7 pokemon from previous generations" means to the Isshu dex.Have you tried evolving Golbat into Crobat in Leafgreen before getting the National Dex? :/
It's a habit of mine to pick up on common phrases used on the Internet, and spit 'em back out. Seriously, it'll take me forever to explain why I do such things. ;^^The problem was that you picked the wrong word for the job - "hate" is a bit too strong, it has implications, you know? "dislike" would probably have been a better choice.
Correction: Zubats AND Koromoris! 8DHeck, for all we know, it could be crawling with Zubats in every cave. ...again.
That's what I said, it can contain previous gen pokemon that you catch but don't register to the pokedex, like DPPtThe problem was that you picked the wrong word for the job - "hate" is a bit too strong, it has implications, you know? "dislike" would probably have been a better choice.
True, I guess it just seems weird to me to be able to catch Pokemon that don't even register in the dex. I guess the more you think about it, the less the "7 pokemon from previous generations" means to the Isshu dex.
Heck, for all we know, it could be crawling with Zubats in every cave. ...again.
It's a habit of mine to pick up on common phrases used on the Internet, and spit 'em back out. Seriously, it'll take me forever to explain why I do such things. ;^^
Correction: Zubats AND Koromoris! 8D
Yep, I'm agreeing with you - this just didn't register with me for a while. I guess I'm just really slow aloof :/That's what I said, it can contain previous gen pokemon that you catch but don't register to the pokedex, like DPPt
Bwahaha... you're right. Caves will be FUN this generation! Especially if Koromori's "Heart Stamp" inflicts Poison or Confusion, something entertaining like that.It's a habit of mine to pick up on common phrases used on the Internet, and spit 'em back out. Seriously, it'll take me forever to explain why I do such things. ;^^
Correction: Zubats AND Koromoris! 8D
:naughty:For anyone who has read about, or played other games with angels/demons in them, it wouldn't be surprising to have the white "angel" represent hell, and the black "angel" represent heaven. At this point in media, it is almost cliche, but I prefer it over the much more obvious white + good angel and black + bad angel.
Don't worry, there's also Machop and Geodudes, too! ... I'm going to get shot soon, aren't I? XDi consider you a big friend but the fact you reminded me we are gonna have to deal with BOTH zubats and koromoris inside caves just make me want to cut your head off.
So basically we're dealing with Reshiram being the equivalent of Lucifer, and Zekrom being Satan? ... Sounds fun, 'specially with Lucifer having angel wings himself, and Satan having weird bat wings (Zekrom has mecha-bat wings, at least. ... Right? ;^^)By the way Ming-Ming, this is something I want to share directly with you, perhaps you missed this post a few pages back:
:naughty:For anyone who has read about, or played other games with angels/demons in them, it wouldn't be surprising to have the white "angel" represent hell, and the black "angel" represent heaven. At this point in media, it is almost cliche, but I prefer it over the much more obvious white + good angel and black + bad angel.
It's been suggested the 7 pokes are Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu, Magikarp, Gyarados, Tentacool, Tentacruel... but I can't see Pokemon like Machop and Goldeen and Zubat and Geodude suddenly missing a generation; they've been in every game this far, why stop now?
Nah, it's just hard to keep up with what's going on, lol. And if Zubats are annoying, then both Zubats and Koromori's.. UGHYep, I'm agreeing with you - this just didn't register with me for a while. I guess I'm just really slow aloof :/
Bwahaha... you're right. Caves will be FUN this generation! Especially if Koromori's "Heart Stamp" inflicts Poison or Confusion, something entertaining like that.
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I'm with you all the way on this bud :D*grab AK-47* i hope you are a eevee cause if you are not then i dont expect to evolve into a ghost type after i am done with you....
gamefreak better surprise us this generation, if its the same old crap but with different pokemons i am gonna get mad.
edit:agreeing with obama down there.
Alright, I admit that Obamasnow IS a powerful force, but he's not game-changing. We're talking about core values here, like Zubat's trolling career!