But it's likely it could drop Defense, which IIRC we don't know which type causes that effect.
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SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword & Shield Pre-Release SPOILERS - Check Post 2!
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Remindes me a little Fairy Lock shanenigans in Gen 6. Niche, but useful.
Fighting is +Atk, Steel is +Def, Flying is +Spe, Dark is -SpD, and Normal is -Spe. We don't know +SpA, +SpD, -Atk, -Def, or -SpA. We can make guesses, sure, but it would be nice to have them actually confirmed
We're currently missing: + Sp Atk, + Sp Def, - Atk, - Def, - Sp Atk. And technically we don't know for an absolute certainty that Psychic sets Psychic Terrain, but the chance that it doesn't isn't worth considering.
I would personally guess that Bug reduces Attack, Ground reduces Defence, Dragon increases Sp Atk, Poison increases Sp Def, and Ghost reduces Sp Atk. But aside from Ground affecting a physical stat, I don't think any of these are set in stone.
I'm really surprised these haven't been leaked already tbh, considering that the competitive implications are really important.
I would personally guess that Bug reduces Attack, Ground reduces Defence, Dragon increases Sp Atk, Poison increases Sp Def, and Ghost reduces Sp Atk. But aside from Ground affecting a physical stat, I don't think any of these are set in stone.
I'm really surprised these haven't been leaked already tbh, considering that the competitive implications are really important.
Now that we've seen obstruct, obstagoon is going to be really praying that it keeps its powerful priority. -2 def is not something you want to have with a sucker punch/extremespeed mon on the field, and even less so if it has pursuit.
As for coalossal...im not going to write it off just yet. +3 speed is nothing to scoff at (ive sweeped with weak armor weakness pokicy magcargo before) and it DOES have a gigantimax form...we need to see what it can truly do before we send it packing.
As for coalossal...im not going to write it off just yet. +3 speed is nothing to scoff at (ive sweeped with weak armor weakness pokicy magcargo before) and it DOES have a gigantimax form...we need to see what it can truly do before we send it packing.
I hope Stonejourner gets Solid Rock, cause it's... a solid rock. :"D
It could be the first Solid Rock mon that doesn't have a quad weakness to something. Just don't be Rock/Ground or Rock/Steel. Pure Rock or Rock/Ghost would be appreciated if that's the case.
It could be the first Solid Rock mon that doesn't have a quad weakness to something. Just don't be Rock/Ground or Rock/Steel. Pure Rock or Rock/Ghost would be appreciated if that's the case.
Kings shield makes a lot of sense on Zamazenta, not so much for Zacian with obstruct though
Zacian uses a sword to fight, so it makes sense for him to be able to riposte your weak spot after deflecting your attack, which is what obstruct represents. You'll be at -2 Defense because he has blocked your move and now you're in a bad possition.
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Idk why y'all are disrespecting the new batch of leaked mons. Sure they don't got ludicrous offenses right off the bat like Dragapult or Barraskewda, but they still got some deadly tools under their belt and if that can be done without worsening stat creep then hell yeah.
Obstagoon is one of the best stallbreakers available with its bulk and Guts Facade, as well as very likely being able to handle offense with Extreme Speed access courtesy of the new egg move transfer mechanic. Appletun's ability opens the door to all kinds of crazy berry stall combos with Recycle and decent stats all-around. Eldegoss actually has potential as a Regenerator fat mon now that Tangrowth's been purged, and as it turns out it actually covers Toxapex's weaknesses very well wink wink nudge nudge
Lest we forget, we aren't in USUM powercreep shitsville anymore. So much stuff has been wiped out that things that we could've dismissed as irredeemable untierable garbage once upon a time can now find a place. Maybe Coalossal or Thievul won't be OU or even UU, but depending on factors about them we still know nothing about like movepool, abilities or in the former's case their Gigantamax form they may not be necessarily condemned to bottom of the barrel tiers like ZU either.
Obstagoon is one of the best stallbreakers available with its bulk and Guts Facade, as well as very likely being able to handle offense with Extreme Speed access courtesy of the new egg move transfer mechanic. Appletun's ability opens the door to all kinds of crazy berry stall combos with Recycle and decent stats all-around. Eldegoss actually has potential as a Regenerator fat mon now that Tangrowth's been purged, and as it turns out it actually covers Toxapex's weaknesses very well wink wink nudge nudge
Lest we forget, we aren't in USUM powercreep shitsville anymore. So much stuff has been wiped out that things that we could've dismissed as irredeemable untierable garbage once upon a time can now find a place. Maybe Coalossal or Thievul won't be OU or even UU, but depending on factors about them we still know nothing about like movepool, abilities or in the former's case their Gigantamax form they may not be necessarily condemned to bottom of the barrel tiers like ZU either.
Is there even enough pokemon to have a tier like ZU? I think it'll go back to gen-3/4 standards and have 2-4 tiers.
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ADV ZU exists and they make a meta with shit like Delibird as their top-tier picks. We're gonna be absolutely fine.
It’s definitely viable on hypnosis or sing Pokémon. If you miss then you can try again while going first, or just sweep
Does it have a g-max form...?
So Rippen doubles the Berry's effect?
Which means that I can put a Yache Berry to neutralize one x4 Ice Beam aswell? Looks neat!
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We havent seen it in action but we have a pic pf it
Leaker confirmed it exists but can't obtain it due to needing to trade.
I thought the leaker might be able to take a shot from it in battle - welp, it least it's just 8 days until the game comes out c:
Now, if only there were an NPC that offered a Haunter in a trade...
*Snowpoint City PTSD intensifies*
Who else is betting its G-Max move inflicts a Curse?
Also, I think that Obstruct is a very powerful move that can even be used in Singles. While Obstagoon's Attack stat isn't very high, I'm glad it's bulky and fast so that it can break through any slower Pkm or weakened Pkm with Obstruct and one of its priority moves. It's as if Obstagoon had its attack stat doubled, I think.
Even if your opponent fears Obstruct, Obstaggon could, hopefully, pull off Belly Drum. While Gluttony would have been nice, its bulk should be enough to withstand any moderately strong moves.
Thievul's success depends on its movepool. It has decent bulk, so Unburden + Sitrus Berry shouldn't be much of a problem. If it got some way to deal with Fairy and Fighting, it could have a chance to shine.
Eldegoss surprised me the most. It is even different from Tangrowth in that it has superiour special bulk even though Tangrowth has more hp. I can see an Assault Vest being viable on Eldegoss, but that depends on its moveset.
Our new sheep isn't bad at all If it gets a reliable recovery move - and GF really seemed to have learned their lesson from last time -, it wouldn't be farfetch'ed, to be honest. It could have a place in monotype since as of now we no longer have Chansey, Staraptor or Porygon2.
The other normal Pkm isn't bad as well. It will probably have Strong Jaw given the dex entry. To differentiate itself from the sheep and Diggersby, let's hope it has some niche in VGC. Super Fang coupled with decent physical bulk is a start.
Then, on Bolthund or whatever its name is. It's surprisingly quite fast, but, as expected, it's frail. Its attack stats are a little bit low. However, it has access to Strong Jaw and appears to be a mixed attacker. Either way, it might be more effective as a revenge killer when all the opponent Pkm are weakened enough.
On another note, I feel like this is The generation with the highest amount of new fast Pkm.
God DAMMIT. Why does Game Freak always feel the need to introduce items that serve no purpose other than to evolve something?
Also found Clover Sweet and Star Sweet.
Applin evolves with the Tart Apple.
At least the spinning is cool. Kinda like actually whipping cream.
Leaker says the evolution is by "spinning around" (this is also a hint in the item description).
Alright, six more pages to go before I'm caught up.
Ditto Fyi, In the spreadsheet it lists G-Max Wildfire's effect as setting up fire spin, but the actual effect text stated on the official site matches the field effect of fire+grass pledge more. I believe Serebii wrote down fire spin when Gigantamax Charizard was revealed, but I suspect that is an error given the actual effect descriptions (unless somehow the official site got their own descriptions mixed up).
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As for other overnight reveals, I'm a little bit disappointed that Grapploct is so slow and that Cursola's defense is practically non-existent. Hopefully Grapploct's bulk is high enough that it can take some hits while getting its signature move off, or that it has an alternate ability that helps in some way. Mostly concerned at the moment about them not becoming dead weight during an in-game run by getting KO'd all the time, but will be interested to see if they have utility in battle spot formats.
I guess in the course of making up for gen 7's middling speeds GF also decided to make a lot more Trick Room mons, because although we've been getting pretty excited about Dragapult etc's speed, a fair amount of these mons are slow.
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As for other overnight reveals, I'm a little bit disappointed that Grapploct is so slow and that Cursola's defense is practically non-existent. Hopefully Grapploct's bulk is high enough that it can take some hits while getting its signature move off, or that it has an alternate ability that helps in some way. Mostly concerned at the moment about them not becoming dead weight during an in-game run by getting KO'd all the time, but will be interested to see if they have utility in battle spot formats.
I guess in the course of making up for gen 7's middling speeds GF also decided to make a lot more Trick Room mons, because although we've been getting pretty excited about Dragapult etc's speed, a fair amount of these mons are slow.
Checked it out, seems right to go with Pledge effect. Changed
Confused: Is obstruct an attacking move or a status move?