Tyranitar was reasonably common in Gen IV stall to pursuit the only reliable spinner Starmie. Now that the Rotom forms are gone and Nattorei has become the most common user of entry hazards, people prefer to use Forretress as their main spinner. As a result there is no reason anymore to reduce your team's defences by running a scarftar in your team.
If you need a summoner of permanent sandstorm i'd say Hippowdon would suit the stall team much more than Tyranitar does
That's not what I was saying. Tyranitar is able to do huge damage to and Pursuit spinblockers, while Forry cannot. Many stall pokemon are much less able to wall offensive pokemon with Spikes and other hazards up, which is why Forretress, along with its ability to setup hazards, is so useful to stall teams, to remove that residual damage which allows many pokemon to blow past dedicated walls; for example, with a couple layers of Spikes, Lucario's CC OHKOs Hippowdon. Tyranitar can remove spinblockers to allow walls to more effectively perform their job, and as such is quite useful on a stall team. It can also Pursuit Starmie, as it could last gen, and provides some very useful offensive support, as well as providing some useful special bulk with its equivalent of 175 base Special Defense. Kevin Garrett's stall team utilized Tyranitar quite effectively.
Perhaps you haven't realized it yet but stall needs a reliable switchin, not something that can beat those one on one. I'm wondering in what kind of world you are living in if you think nobody is running SD gliscor, while it's in fact very common. Check
here if you don't believe me.
Also ''Gyarados is never used as a sweeper?'' What? You can't be serious here lol.
Perhaps you haven't realized it yet, but a lot of the pokemon you mentioned have no reliable switchin. CBTar's Aqua Tail 2HKOs Hippowdon, and Stone Edge 2HKOs Skarmory after SR. CBGross's Meteor Mash 2HKOs Hippowdon, and ThunderPunch 2HKOs Skarmory after SR. Giving the most monstrous Attack stats in the game, which can crush any wall in their path, as an example to show that a single pokemon is unfit for a stall team is completely illogical. In fact, Spiritomb was a staple on Gen 4 stall teams before the advent of Rotom-A, which only had the advantage of Levitate over Spiritomb. Without Rotom-A's Ghost typing, Spiritomb isn't such an illogical choice, as it is one of the two spinblockers without a weakness to Pursuit, which plagues such pokemon as Burungeru.
SD Gliscor is actually very uncommon; part of the reason that the team was so effective was because of the ubiquity of Protect/Fling/Acrobat/Earthquake Gliscor, which allowed the set to thrive. Gyarados is also never used as a sweeper in Gen 5. Have you actually played the Smogon ladder? Spiritomb has the bulk to take attacks from many common offensive pokemon and burn them, rendering them next to useless for the rest of the match.
Which common physicall sweepers have i forgotten? It would have been nice if you would backup your argument with real examples.
I meant that you used absolutely ludicrous examples to "prove" that Spiritomb is unviable for OU play, and I gave examples to show that Spiritomb is able to wall many, in fact most, of the pokemon you did give as examples.
One really needs a lot of patience to stay calm around here, at least cosmicexplorer does an effort to make a decent argument... but this is just getting ridiculous. Here it goes i suppose:
No matter how bulky you run your Tyranitar it's horrible typing won't allow it to be an effective wall. Also i'd rather run Toxic on my spinner to defeat Burunguru than to waste an entire teamslot on a pokemon i don't aside from killing Rankurusu. In that case i'd rather use Barujiina who also defeats Rankurusu but can actually wall things.
Tyranitar can't be an effective wall with the equivalent of 175 base Special Defense. Right. Oh by the way, another Rankurusu counter!
Also since when is Tyranitar a reliable switch into Rankurusu? No way i'm going to risk getting a focus Blast in my face.
Because Rankurusu's going to open with a 70% accuracy Fighting-type attack that does absolutely nothing to the Psychic-types that can basically switch in on it for free and CM up. That's a complete waste of a turn, and allows stuff like Wobbuffet or Shandera to switch in and get a free kill.
The only stallteams i can imagine in which Tyranitar is better than Hippowdon are those who run a mix of stall and offensive, oh wait those aren't stallteams anymore.
Besides the fact that this is patently wrong, as has been mentioned many times in this thread, with the addition of a Magic Guard pokemon that isn't pointless against non-full-stall teams, stall teams in this generation simply have to adapt to the fact that Magic Guard is now in common usage. Again, Clefable did exactly the same to full stall in Generation 4, and in Generation 5, but I don't see anyone calling that overpowered. Full stall teams just lost to Clefable due to Magic Guard, and the same is true for Rankurusu. The only difference is that Rankurusu is more powerful and much more commonly used. With the addition of a Magic Guard pokemon that people actually use, stall teams have to adapt and carry something that can defeat it. Many of its counters have been mentioned in this thread, none of which you seem to be recognizing as legitimate.
EDIT: Well, I guess I won't be getting a response to this. I appreciate the effort you put into argumentation, though.
