hello, i just want to post some thoughts about the meta as alpha phase closes shortly. Post is mostly a rambling as I wont really try to back up anything I say with replays or evidence or anything. hope you enjoy
I think slowbro is the best pokemon in the tier. It checks brokens like haxorus and lycanroc, it isn't really that passive due to its movepool and regen, and its incredibly reliable. Obviously tera fairy is best as that helps with lycan's crunch and other darks like krook that would otherwise beat it. Touching on the movepool again, i believe its best set is future sight + ironpress, tho twave can also fit in there. I find surf to be rather useless, something like chilling water would honestly be better. Hitting grounds is really not that important. Psyshock is also very good for catching Toxtricity. I wonder if CM could ever work with how little pokemon use toxic. I think it is very hard to make any kind of balance without this pokemon. trying to build cores without it can work but i really don't see a reason to do that. Not to say this pokemon is perfect tho. It's awful garde mu is bad and its weakness to dark pre-tera is exploitable due to the limited fairy type options of the tier. Its pretty hard to really take advantage of outside of those i find, ig surfless leaves it really weak to rotom fire but i don't see that as the biggest issue.
garde is the best scarfer in the tier. It really takes advantage of the limited steel types of the tier and it can take advantage of other special walls like blissey with Trick. H-wish is also insanely valuable. I think its sheer strength is often overlooked but 125 spa does wonders in this tier. there aren't a ton of great special walls, certainly none that are of the same caliber as slowbro or even bellibolt, so it is bound to succeed, especially with the stab combo. The only drawback to scarf garde is that its slower than +1 haxo, but so is every other scarfer except lazzle. Specs is also quite good but is not as splashable as scarf and also struggles against offense.
hazard removal is by far the biggest question of this tier now and will be moving forward. the pokemon above are the options that could be listed as 'viable' even though they really aren't. Id argue only one of those pokemon are actually viable, and that's oricorio. Firstly oricorio is a fantastic check to flamigo, something ppl claim is broken (its not... at all) and secondly it isn't as exploitable as the others. It has reliable recovery and can pivot with U-turn. it pairs well with slowbro as it can handle krook. I personally like hurricane/qd/roost/defog as it can become a threatening wincon. It also is just good at removal as it beats stuff like palosand and whiscash. I think the pokemon that comes closest to being actually good is altaria as it is a decent special sponge. Perish trap stuff is also very nice with alt. I think its biggest issue is that its far too passive for the kinds of teams that it often appears. It is a special wall that kinda sits there and fogs and doesn't really threaten anything itself. Aldo showed off a cool cotton gaurd set, forgot if it ran defog tho. Driftblim isn't good either for similar reasons. Strength sap is more annoying than it is actually good and drift often requires a tera too. Lurantis is kind of threatening with leaf storm, but it still isn't a good pokemon itself due to poor speed, it is very prone to just being overrun. It has good mu's into common rockers tho. Braviary might not be that bad, i can't say I've tried it and its bulk is decent at 100/75/75. Also as U-turn. I think the biggest reason why im hesitant to calling it good is the normal typeing really hurts it. Lots of teams use their flying types to deal with the insane fighting of RU but braviary just gets owned. Avlugg is far to passive, cryogonal has deceptively bad stats topped with an awful defensive typing, coal is not a good spinner, loses to all ghosts, and tatsugiri is dogshit and unremarkable. There is a reason why no one has been using it in kickoff tour.
ru is unique as whiscash finally has a niche in a metagame, a very good one. Offering both rocks and spikes are incredibly valuable in a tier with such poor removal options. Oblivious allows it to spike on opposing leads like froslass and lycanroc. ywt used it in conjunction with sableye on a balance and that works well enough. I am just very happy my favorite pokemon gets to be good.
Very good whispasser. The first time i ever saw this thing was when i played togkey and ever since I've been a fan. togkey used press/wish/tect/yawn which i think is its best set. Yawn prevents set up in the early game and body press takes advantage of the crappy steels. It can also outspeed mag too ensuring the faster press. well-baked-body is a solid ability that supports its body press, leads to a really strong mu against tauros-fire. tera steel is what i have been running and that also compliments nicely with well-baked-body.
Decent steel-type option, I again saw togkey use it and i like it. Lots of teams are not prepared for toxic and it being one of the few to learn it makes it quite good. coupled with parting shot and it is quite decent pivot. Spin out is a decent move and it works well with its pivoting since it can go slower. Filter is just the cherry on top. Pairs well with dachsbun too making a strong defensive core.
Goodra is good! I think scarf goodra is very good and i would suggest trying it. It offers defensive utility as it goes quite well into rotom, can take a boomburst after rocks from specs toxt. Goodra, like garde, also takes advantage of the poor steels of RU, id recommend running tera dragon to pack an extra punch on those dracos. It fails to break any special walls like blissey tho, maybe focus punch idk.
for w/e reason, ppl think blissey is bad when it is fine. I think they try to argue that its supposed to beat mismag and other ghosts, when a) it can use t-wave to effectively take them out of the game and b) its not its job. it is meant to soak special attacks not beat stallbreakers. It goes quite well into rotoms, goodra, toxt (assuming u run special bulk which you should), arboliva, frosmoth, venomoth, and other special attackers.
I think there are two main viable sets, specs analytic or some kind of special defense pivot. Magnetpull is very bad,no reason to run it, it requires a tera to actually beat steels which isn't worth it ever. Analytic on the other hand beats all grounds and can fire powerful volt switches on other special walls. spdef pivot is also good as it can work as a garde check and do other steel things. volt/discharge/flash/tect is a good set, tect gives extra lefties and can scout. there are some very popular teams that don't run a ground type and this just goes in. Ill also add it tanks ttoxt's attacks quite well.
Fantastic pokemon, can 6-0 teams itself. beats cheese, really good option.
Another really strong pokemon, it really is like ru's volcarona. Seems to have gone under the radar a bit but it still does venomoth things. Different teras can help it against priority too.
that's all hope u enjoyed
I think slowbro is the best pokemon in the tier. It checks brokens like haxorus and lycanroc, it isn't really that passive due to its movepool and regen, and its incredibly reliable. Obviously tera fairy is best as that helps with lycan's crunch and other darks like krook that would otherwise beat it. Touching on the movepool again, i believe its best set is future sight + ironpress, tho twave can also fit in there. I find surf to be rather useless, something like chilling water would honestly be better. Hitting grounds is really not that important. Psyshock is also very good for catching Toxtricity. I wonder if CM could ever work with how little pokemon use toxic. I think it is very hard to make any kind of balance without this pokemon. trying to build cores without it can work but i really don't see a reason to do that. Not to say this pokemon is perfect tho. It's awful garde mu is bad and its weakness to dark pre-tera is exploitable due to the limited fairy type options of the tier. Its pretty hard to really take advantage of outside of those i find, ig surfless leaves it really weak to rotom fire but i don't see that as the biggest issue.
garde is the best scarfer in the tier. It really takes advantage of the limited steel types of the tier and it can take advantage of other special walls like blissey with Trick. H-wish is also insanely valuable. I think its sheer strength is often overlooked but 125 spa does wonders in this tier. there aren't a ton of great special walls, certainly none that are of the same caliber as slowbro or even bellibolt, so it is bound to succeed, especially with the stab combo. The only drawback to scarf garde is that its slower than +1 haxo, but so is every other scarfer except lazzle. Specs is also quite good but is not as splashable as scarf and also struggles against offense.
hazard removal is by far the biggest question of this tier now and will be moving forward. the pokemon above are the options that could be listed as 'viable' even though they really aren't. Id argue only one of those pokemon are actually viable, and that's oricorio. Firstly oricorio is a fantastic check to flamigo, something ppl claim is broken (its not... at all) and secondly it isn't as exploitable as the others. It has reliable recovery and can pivot with U-turn. it pairs well with slowbro as it can handle krook. I personally like hurricane/qd/roost/defog as it can become a threatening wincon. It also is just good at removal as it beats stuff like palosand and whiscash. I think the pokemon that comes closest to being actually good is altaria as it is a decent special sponge. Perish trap stuff is also very nice with alt. I think its biggest issue is that its far too passive for the kinds of teams that it often appears. It is a special wall that kinda sits there and fogs and doesn't really threaten anything itself. Aldo showed off a cool cotton gaurd set, forgot if it ran defog tho. Driftblim isn't good either for similar reasons. Strength sap is more annoying than it is actually good and drift often requires a tera too. Lurantis is kind of threatening with leaf storm, but it still isn't a good pokemon itself due to poor speed, it is very prone to just being overrun. It has good mu's into common rockers tho. Braviary might not be that bad, i can't say I've tried it and its bulk is decent at 100/75/75. Also as U-turn. I think the biggest reason why im hesitant to calling it good is the normal typeing really hurts it. Lots of teams use their flying types to deal with the insane fighting of RU but braviary just gets owned. Avlugg is far to passive, cryogonal has deceptively bad stats topped with an awful defensive typing, coal is not a good spinner, loses to all ghosts, and tatsugiri is dogshit and unremarkable. There is a reason why no one has been using it in kickoff tour.
ru is unique as whiscash finally has a niche in a metagame, a very good one. Offering both rocks and spikes are incredibly valuable in a tier with such poor removal options. Oblivious allows it to spike on opposing leads like froslass and lycanroc. ywt used it in conjunction with sableye on a balance and that works well enough. I am just very happy my favorite pokemon gets to be good.
Very good whispasser. The first time i ever saw this thing was when i played togkey and ever since I've been a fan. togkey used press/wish/tect/yawn which i think is its best set. Yawn prevents set up in the early game and body press takes advantage of the crappy steels. It can also outspeed mag too ensuring the faster press. well-baked-body is a solid ability that supports its body press, leads to a really strong mu against tauros-fire. tera steel is what i have been running and that also compliments nicely with well-baked-body.
Decent steel-type option, I again saw togkey use it and i like it. Lots of teams are not prepared for toxic and it being one of the few to learn it makes it quite good. coupled with parting shot and it is quite decent pivot. Spin out is a decent move and it works well with its pivoting since it can go slower. Filter is just the cherry on top. Pairs well with dachsbun too making a strong defensive core.
Goodra is good! I think scarf goodra is very good and i would suggest trying it. It offers defensive utility as it goes quite well into rotom, can take a boomburst after rocks from specs toxt. Goodra, like garde, also takes advantage of the poor steels of RU, id recommend running tera dragon to pack an extra punch on those dracos. It fails to break any special walls like blissey tho, maybe focus punch idk.
for w/e reason, ppl think blissey is bad when it is fine. I think they try to argue that its supposed to beat mismag and other ghosts, when a) it can use t-wave to effectively take them out of the game and b) its not its job. it is meant to soak special attacks not beat stallbreakers. It goes quite well into rotoms, goodra, toxt (assuming u run special bulk which you should), arboliva, frosmoth, venomoth, and other special attackers.
I think there are two main viable sets, specs analytic or some kind of special defense pivot. Magnetpull is very bad,no reason to run it, it requires a tera to actually beat steels which isn't worth it ever. Analytic on the other hand beats all grounds and can fire powerful volt switches on other special walls. spdef pivot is also good as it can work as a garde check and do other steel things. volt/discharge/flash/tect is a good set, tect gives extra lefties and can scout. there are some very popular teams that don't run a ground type and this just goes in. Ill also add it tanks ttoxt's attacks quite well.
Fantastic pokemon, can 6-0 teams itself. beats cheese, really good option.
Another really strong pokemon, it really is like ru's volcarona. Seems to have gone under the radar a bit but it still does venomoth things. Different teras can help it against priority too.
that's all hope u enjoyed