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Simpler maybe? But not logical because Pinsir wasn't broken in UU, the item Pinsirite was, and following the same logic as with Mawile, Pinsirite was banned to BL while Pinsir was not. And because Pinsir is not a good Pokemon in UU without Pinsirite, it fell to NU by usage as it lost the item that made it worth using.No that's not what I mean, I'd be more comfortable with Pinsir itself being in BL as opposed to NU if we maintain the current policy, as that does indeed make it simpler, but if simplicity is your aim then tiering the megas and non-megas separately would be better for your goal, in my personal opinion at least. I'm just annoyed by the current inconsistency.
Alakazam didn't drop down to NU and back up to OU depending on the ability it had, and that's essentially what is happening to pinsir. I know it didn't get low enough usage to drop into UU, because it was really good, but if it did drop into UU they wouldn't have banned magic guard, they would have banned Alakazam.
That's what I don't get about this thread, for all intents and purposes we /do/ tier them separately already in a way, just not haphazardly by trying to determine a "fake" usage-based tier for the mega stone, but instead using a hard-line logical and objective usage based tier for the base Pokemon and banning the mega stone where appropriate.
As to your Alakazam vs Pinsir point, we simply haven't had a case like the Pinsir one until now. We did kinda cover the issue a bit here http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/on-snovers-tier-placement-part-two.3475635/, not perfectly, but sufficiently enough that I think it tends to fall in line with the logic that we currently use for Pinsir.
And I mean, whether or not they would have chosen to ban Magic Guard or Alakazam again comes down to following our policy for what would have been most simple and logical, if Alakazam was the only one with Magic Guard and Magic Guard is what made it broken, then Magic Guard could have been banned, but Clefable did exist so ya Alakazam would have been banned to BL.