Thanks for the stats.
Now we know what to plan for if Mence is banned.
Now we know what to plan for if Mence is banned.
I'm think it's people thinking Salamence is even better then it is. (Just looking around Smogon you might get the impression that it's totally insane, given the hype people are giving it) if mence isn't banned, I'm guessing a major dropback in Tran, Ape, Gengar and Starmie.Obligatory thanks for stats.
On looking at OU, Scizor, Salamence, Gyarados and Tyranitar all took massive drops in usage, if I'm not mistaken, while Heatran, Infernape, Gengar, and Starmie all leapt up. All I can think is, either people have decided to fill their teams with fast stuff in order to centralise around Salamence now that he's apparently very threatening all of a sudden, or they're just anticipating Salamence's banning (can't think of any other reasons). IIRC, the standard metagame seemed to show those trends roundabout the Garchomp stage - food for thought...
Honestly, Tyranitar is probably the worst infernape counter/check ever. Pursuit doesn't OHKO starmie if it stays in and a LO Hydro Pump can OHKO after SR. You're going to break breloom's sub and then get focus punched yay. DD Gyara/Mence have better STAB while pretty much the same attack. And obviously, nothing can beat Specsmence DM/Bandmence Outrage in power.I can't see how Tyranitar dropped in usage. Sure, Latias is gone, but any Infernape that's not scarfed/doesn't carry priority is instafucked, same with any non-scarfed Starmie, Breloom can be hit for a respectable amount of damage with Superpower, and Dragon Dance Tyranitar can still be a "gg" indicator lategame. CB Tyranitar still punches holes like a mofo (2HKO on a Crocune with Stone Edge anyone?), and...
Tyranitar just has too much use in this metagame. Why it dropped, I have no clue.
Physical Infernape's CC V.S Tyranitar; 211% - 248.8%I can't see how Tyranitar dropped in usage. Sure, Latias is gone, but any Infernape that's not scarfed/doesn't carry priority is instafucked, same with any non-scarfed Starmie, Breloom can be hit for a respectable amount of damage with Superpower, and Dragon Dance Tyranitar can still be a "gg" indicator lategame. CB Tyranitar still punches holes like a mofo (2HKO on a Crocune with Stone Edge anyone?), and...
Tyranitar just has too much use in this metagame. Why it dropped, I have no clue.
It could be because sometimes people don't make sure what ladder they are on and play with their suspect team on Standard. It's happened to me a couple of times.Anyway -- you'll notice that Suspect testing seems to have had a "halo effect" on Standard OU last month. You'll notice that Heatran suddenly jumped up to #2 on the main ladder, and Scizor usage dipped considerably. I guess people are using their non-Salamence teams on the Standard ladder too? I don't know.
:(| 4 | Machamp | 50050 | 5.01 |
Isn't their rise because of the ban of Latias to ubers?I'm think it's people thinking Salamence is even better then it is. (Just looking around Smogon you might get the impression that it's totally insane, given the hype people are giving it) if mence isn't banned, I'm guessing a major dropback in Tran, Ape, Gengar and Starmie.
| Manaphy | HP EV | Max | 25.5 |
Fuck yes. People are finally starting realise how awesome CM Manaphy is. No more "surprise wins" on the ladder now, though, oh well.| Manaphy | Move | Calm Mind | 49.1 |
| Manaphy | Move | Tail Glow | 42.5 |
Physical infernape's Overheat V.S Tyranitar; 10-15%ish?Physical Infernape's CC V.S Tyranitar; 211% - 248.8%
Special Infernape's CC V.S Tyranitar; 179.5% - 212.1%