Monte Cristo
Banned deucer.
Lets completely ignore that moltres has less bulk, a worse defensive typing (who gives a fuck about being weak to fire when your at least not weak to keldeo and starmie hydro spam, so honestly being a bit volcarona weak is a fair tradeoff for not being *as* keldeo weak), no STAB Ice moves which are arguably more important in a dnite centralized meta, and is weak to rain
Kyurem is not used as much as it should be, but articuno and kyurem work together regardless, articuno is better for teams that need a bit better of a dragonite check, since it's not weak to outrage and can't phaze subnite before it gets phazed itself or just gets outraged upon, while cuno can roar it through it's sub, it's also not vulnerable to ANY form of entrey hazards with SR being gone, especially when spikes and tspikes are so damned important in this meta
EDIT:
Moltres VS Articuno, because you people apparently like to argue
the fair way to go with this is qual spreads, so we're rolling with 248 HP/80 Def/176 Sdef/4 Speed Calm since that allows both molt. and cuno to live some really "important" hits
- Venusaur
252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 28.45 - 33.94%
252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno in sun: 42.81 - 50.91%
252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 35.5 - 42.03%
counting leftovers, both of them live the two, but incase venu wants to gowth, cuno can actually Phaze it(both of them fail to kill w/o hazards with 0 investment STAB moves, not counting fire blast and blizzard because PP is important on a "stally" mon)
- Latias
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 45.16 - 53.26%
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 59.26 - 70.23%
Counting the drop, articuno will live a second draco 100% of the time and roost up, while moltres has to rely on the absolute minimum, I have to use 252 since some people actually cut speed on latias (wut?) to get the community agreed minimum HP investment for latias, which is 72
Also cuno can phaze out sub CM latias, while moltres can't
- Rotom-W
252 SpA Rotom-W Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 75.71 - 89.81%
252 SpA Rotom-W Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 45.43 - 53.78%
Counting leftovers, cuno has a pretty good chance to live 2, with moltres's water weakness, not so much, this is pointless anyway since both can't touch it outside of cuno Phazing it
- Scarf Keldeo (outside of rain because keldettar is noteworthy enough so neutral weather is just the safest option to pick)
252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 33.15 - 39.42%
252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 87.72 - 103.39%
HOLY CRAP LOOK AT THAT DAMAGE VARIATION, articuno if using hurricane as the STAB of choice can wreck it and laugh at it's weak ass moves, while sure moltres could also wreck the mini MLP mon with hurricane, it dies most of the time, not only that but hey, ebelt keldeo ensures the OHKO on moltres.
THose are some calcs for you guys, and especially because this quote was getting on my fuckin nerves:
Kyurem is not used as much as it should be, but articuno and kyurem work together regardless, articuno is better for teams that need a bit better of a dragonite check, since it's not weak to outrage and can't phaze subnite before it gets phazed itself or just gets outraged upon, while cuno can roar it through it's sub, it's also not vulnerable to ANY form of entrey hazards with SR being gone, especially when spikes and tspikes are so damned important in this meta
EDIT:
Moltres VS Articuno, because you people apparently like to argue
the fair way to go with this is qual spreads, so we're rolling with 248 HP/80 Def/176 Sdef/4 Speed Calm since that allows both molt. and cuno to live some really "important" hits
- Venusaur
252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 28.45 - 33.94%
252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno in sun: 42.81 - 50.91%
252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 35.5 - 42.03%
counting leftovers, both of them live the two, but incase venu wants to gowth, cuno can actually Phaze it(both of them fail to kill w/o hazards with 0 investment STAB moves, not counting fire blast and blizzard because PP is important on a "stally" mon)
- Latias
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 45.16 - 53.26%
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 59.26 - 70.23%
Counting the drop, articuno will live a second draco 100% of the time and roost up, while moltres has to rely on the absolute minimum, I have to use 252 since some people actually cut speed on latias (wut?) to get the community agreed minimum HP investment for latias, which is 72
Also cuno can phaze out sub CM latias, while moltres can't
- Rotom-W
252 SpA Rotom-W Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 75.71 - 89.81%
252 SpA Rotom-W Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 45.43 - 53.78%
Counting leftovers, cuno has a pretty good chance to live 2, with moltres's water weakness, not so much, this is pointless anyway since both can't touch it outside of cuno Phazing it
- Scarf Keldeo (outside of rain because keldettar is noteworthy enough so neutral weather is just the safest option to pick)
252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Articuno: 33.15 - 39.42%
252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 176+ SpD Moltres: 87.72 - 103.39%
HOLY CRAP LOOK AT THAT DAMAGE VARIATION, articuno if using hurricane as the STAB of choice can wreck it and laugh at it's weak ass moves, while sure moltres could also wreck the mini MLP mon with hurricane, it dies most of the time, not only that but hey, ebelt keldeo ensures the OHKO on moltres.
THose are some calcs for you guys, and especially because this quote was getting on my fuckin nerves:
so give me a situation where articuno can perform more efficiently than moltres
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