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On the topic of other weather summoners, Ninetales and Mega Charizard Y get Earth Power (Charmander's weak to Ground) and Stealth Rock, and Tyranitar gets Heal Order and Sticky Web. Pretty interesting if you ask me.
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I just realized that there are a lot more Sticky Web users now: Espeon and Mega Absol w/ Magic Bounce, Shaymin, Celebi, Tyranitar, Krookodile, Zoroark, Lati@s, Deoxys, Cress, Mew, Meowstic, Chesnaught...this is pretty game-changing. At least the amount of new defoggers balances this out but having Deoxys, the Magic Bouncers and Meowstic-M with Sticky Web is a pretty big deal.
What if Espeon used sticky web on mega-Absol!? My life s a Lie!
Bonemerang doesn't effect levitating/flying pokemon
If you played Balanced hackmons you would know what happens, Absol just magic bounces it back end of story.
regirock has stone edge and rhyperior can cover most raised pokemon with the set I gave it.
Edit: Only thing it doesn't cover is Rotom-W.
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I think you are getting confused with Brokemons, where Bonemerang can hit flying type :/
I think Mud-Shot is the only move that can hit flying types AND is ground type. (I may be wrong)
I said bonemerang cause its powerful breaks subs and is ground type. and mud shot doesn't hit raised pokemon.
bonemerang doesn't hit flying types
edit:ninja'd
edit again: I forgot to read the most recent post.
black glasses, fire blast sunkern should be banned
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Here's a pastebin of most viable mons and the (semi-)viable moves they get. Seems like the psychic types get the most fun out of this meta, in the form of sleep + set-up (Dark Void, Quiver Dance, Tail Glow) and a buttload of utility (Sticky Web, Topsy-Turvy, Parting Shot, Switcheroo, Destiny Bond, U-turn). Even though Shell Smash is (fortunately) absent, the meta looks like its going to be really set-up oriented, especially with so many possible sleepers at the moment. Just like with Alphabet's torny and thundy, Topsy-Turvy is an absolute godsent in this kind of environment, so I'm expecting Meowstic to finally get her chance to shine. Kind of on the fence about Mega-Banette, since Prankster doesn't activate on the turn you mega and using Protect or something to guarantee the free turn might just end with your opponent subbing in your face. Sableye really wishes it was weak to dark right now haha.
Geomancy Keldeo is ridiculous btw, the only thing that isn't 2HKO'd is 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jellicent if you're running Aeroblast, which is really the only thing you should run. Prepare your pranksters people. Greninja is even worse, as with Secret Sword / Moonblast / Dark Pulse it can 2HKO anything in the meta (Mega-Venu takes 42.8-50.5% from +2 Dark Pulse). The only thing Venu can do back is Haze or Roar (if he doesn't flinch), seeing how Greninja also gets that nifty +2 SpD boost.
On the other side of the spectrum, we have things like Shift Gear Tyranitar, Mamoswine, Azumarill and Kyurem-B. Luckily that last one still can't do much to Aegislash. We also finally got Dragon Dance Garchomp and a variety of Bulk Up and Curse users, though I have not yet come across any considerable threat among those. Then there's things like Talonflame and Kyurem-B again whose former drawback of bad coverage is completely remedied by moves such as Crabhammer and Close Combat, respectively.
Also, Scolipede gets access to Speed Boost + V-Create, which seems really interesting and possibly very threatening.
Here's a pastebin of most viable mons and the (semi-)viable moves they get. Seems like the psychic types get the most fun out of this meta, in the form of sleep + set-up (Dark Void, Quiver Dance, Tail Glow) and a buttload of utility (Sticky Web, Topsy-Turvy, Parting Shot, Switcheroo, Destiny Bond, U-turn). Even though Shell Smash is (fortunately) absent, the meta looks like its going to be really set-up oriented, especially with so many possible sleepers at the moment. Just like with Alphabet's torny and thundy, Topsy-Turvy is an absolute godsent in this kind of environment, so I'm expecting Meowstic to finally get her chance to shine. Kind of on the fence about Mega-Banette, since Prankster doesn't activate on the turn you mega and using Protect or something to guarantee the free turn might just end with your opponent subbing in your face. Sableye really wishes it was weak to dark right now haha.
Geomancy Keldeo is ridiculous btw, the only thing that isn't 2HKO'd is 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jellicent if you're running Aeroblast, which is really the only thing you should run. Prepare your pranksters people. Greninja is even worse, as with Secret Sword / Moonblast / Dark Pulse it can 2HKO anything in the meta (Mega-Venu takes 42.8-50.5% from +2 Dark Pulse). The only thing Venu can do back is Haze or Roar (if he doesn't flinch), seeing how Greninja also gets that nifty +2 SpD boost.
On the other side of the spectrum, we have things like Shift Gear Tyranitar, Mamoswine, Azumarill and Kyurem-B. Luckily that last one still can't do much to Aegislash. We also finally got Dragon Dance Garchomp and a variety of Bulk Up and Curse users, though I have not yet come across any considerable threat among those. Then there's things like Talonflame and Kyurem-B again whose former drawback of bad coverage is completely remedied by moves such as Crabhammer and Close Combat, respectively.
Also, Scolipede gets access to Speed Boost + V-Create, which seems really interesting and possibly very threatening.
*his. female meowstic doesn't get prankster.
My bad, sorry. Never really learned which one's which :>
Monte Cristo
Banned deucer.
Absol already got knock off but before it was illegal with play rough cause play rough was gen 6 egg and knock off is gen 5 tutor iirc
Swellow @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 HP
Facade
Bolt Strike
Icicle Crash
U-Turn/ Roost
Swellow now gets gets Guts Facade with coverage. Watch out for magnets though.
Ability: Guts
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 HP
Facade
Bolt Strike
Icicle Crash
U-Turn/ Roost
Swellow now gets gets Guts Facade with coverage. Watch out for magnets though.
I was expecting this, so I predict much usage in Pokemon with Unaware, Haze, Topsy Turvy, and Parting Shot.
Taunt will also be important, me thinks.
Oh, and Snatch could finally have some use to punish set up.
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Derped a bit on Taunt and forgot to include it anywhere, but yeah, there are some fun mons who get it now like rachi and the latis. As for Unaware mons, Quag did get access to leech seed and aromatherapy, so I guess he can be even more annoying now. Thundy and torn both have prankster haze, so at least that's another way to stop set-up. Really loving the look of this meta already, hope it gets implemented somewhere soon!
EDIT: Geomancy snatching would be one of the most rewarding things ever
I actually just found out that Geomancy can't be Snatched, I guess because it's a delay attack.
Kit Kasai
Love colored magic
You could request for someone to code it and put it up on their own server. Also, every month, there is a vote for Other Meta of the Month, which is put on to the main PS server with a ladder.
Ok. Who can I ask to code it?
Pikachuun
the entire waruda machine
Me, in my off time. I coded a metagame with intrinsic abilities that do different things depending on the Pokemon, so this is definitely possible.
!summon TalkTakesTime
Now its a race between ttt and pika