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Then there's Para-flinch-fusion, commonly run by Jirachi. With Serene Grace, Water Pulse/Thunder/Iron Head/Calm Mind can be run with great effect. It just takes a long time to set up.
It depends on the specific situation. In general, I'd say if it's a mon that commonly carries Lum Berry, such as DDnite or DD/SD Haxorus, then play around it and go for straight attacks. Same goes for Substitute. Sometimes, though, you're just going to get screwed over; going for a Twave on Terrakion is a fine play most of the time, and you can't let the 10% of people who run SubSD Terrakion deter you from doing it.I have tried using thunder wave before but I am always worried about my opponent using substitute or having lum berry. Whats the best way to deal with this?
Nvm. That's a really annoying set to face in NU, but I doubt it has any merit in OUYou need to include liepard as the only non uber fully evolved poke with priority twave
sub
swagger
foul play
twave
can get quite irritating
Doubt it. Liepard has Prankster as a DW ability and can learn Thunder Wave....Liepard doesn't get priority T-Wave... I think you mean Sableye?
You can always rule out the possibility of a Lum Berry if you notice that their health is being restored or reduced through Leftovers and Life Orb, respectfully. Same applies for Choice Scarf if they seem to have an abnormal speed, of course. I've found that Substitute simply requires prediction, though.I have tried using thunder wave before but I am always worried about my opponent using substitute or having lum berry. Whats the best way to deal with this?
You're right, it's not OU. But I would definitely argue for it to be UU. Prankster ability means you don't have to invest ANY EV's into its speed stat. That gives you the opportunity to max out its ATK stat, give it Adamant nature, and throw the rest into HP and DEF for some decent bulk.Glare is a good strategy, but really it's only viable for NU because every pokemon that gets Glare won't stand a chance in OU (Serperior, Dunsparce, Druddigon, Seviper, Arbok)
Liepard, too. Sure, it can paralyze, but I don't think it's OU status. Sableye has a better typing and a better support movepool, while Whimsicott is faster and also has a better support movepool and typing, and neither of them are in OU. Tornadus and Thundurus-I are in OU and Ubers but that was mainly because of their high offensive prowess, something that Liepard doesn't really have. What makes you think Liepard will be better?