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This might be kinda off topic but I feel like Shaymin should move to A+. MY reasoning behind this is that Shaymin's LO rest + 3 attacks set is really deadly. Being able to force out Suicune and Slowbro is nothing to laugh at. Shaymin basically gets a free switch in on every water type due to...

Honestly, Shaymin should be at least B-. While it gets kinda overshadowed by Celebi it has good all around base stats, the BEST offensive grass type move in the game (Seed Flare) and solid coverage make it a solid offensive threat. HP rock patches up coverage issues allowing it to 1hko...

I would say it's better because it doesn't have as many weakness's (Although not as many resists either) and has a better stab move and better coverage options in general. It's better than Celebi in offense but I suppose that Celebi can run better defensive sets but form personal experience I've...

Now that Shaymin officially has an analysis in progress can we put it on the ranking thread? I think B- would be the best rank (1 rank above Celebi whom it is more effective than this gen)

The physical set is the one that I plan on using even though Virizion is certainly good enough in UU ATM (Breaks through most walls). It is a little annoying how is has to set up a SD because of base 90 attack but I think it will still be effective anyways as its speed will be REALLY nice.

Dang I think that Virizion will be a big threat in the meta because it's fast and good mixed attacking stats as well as useful stabs for the meta. Additionally it had a great special defense stat and really only it's defense stat is weaker but it looks pretty solid, especially as a grass type...

May I ask why Shaymin isn't getting an analysis? It seems pretty viable to me and is a base 100 stat everything so that means it's pretty threatening regardless of typing. Donphan isn't getting one either and it got ranked.

And that's OU not UU. Psychic is in decline for reasons other than that as well. It really is not a good defensive typing and is walled pretty easily by common darks and Steel's. It's similar to all the grass and fighting's in UU because of talonflame but that's not really are problem and thus...

OMG I agree so much! it really is quite effective and has great coverage. Not much is able to wall it and its speed is quite nice for UU. It's defensive typing is also pretty nice as really only fire is common out of it's weakness's besides users of STAB. It has to watch for ice coverage but...

I would like to nominate Shaymin for B rank (Yes I know that's above celebi >.>) It's LO+3 attacks and rest set is actually pretty good if the person using it is competent and it really is one of the best attacking grass types in the tier and doesn't have the ghost and dark weakness's that...