Note for posters: DO NOT DISCUSS WHETHER CERTAIN POKEMON SHOULD BE BANNED FROM UBERS.
The uber metagame has been seemingly forgotten in the transition to Platinum.
Hopefully this thread will encourage some of you to begin the “dive” into ubers. I will try and express why I believe it to be in the best interest of all of you to attempt this tier, that for whatever reason, is consistently frowned upon by much of the competitive community.
I will be honest. I have not played ubers myself for all that long, though in my short experience, I have learned a lot and have truly enjoyed Pokemon more than in the past when I played strictly OU. Allow me to explain.
The uber metagame is one that requires more strategy than OU, or even UU for that matter. This is because a player can ill afford to make a single mistake, lest they are put at a large disadvantage; such disadvantages are often impossible to overcome given the presence of such immensely powerful threats like Deoxys-A and Mewtwo. In the uber metagame, bar the occasional (yet inevitable) hax, the better player wins.
As alluded to earlier, many OU battlers can gain a lot of knowledge by simply "getting their feet wet" in ubers. There are new moves to learn, and obviously more threats to be aware of. From my experience, it seems that the tier is centralized around executing a strategy rather than slapping together 6 glass cannons and hoping to wreck stuff, or simply using ObiStall. Granted, many of the best OU teams are centered around executing a certain strategy, though not always. It is the things like these that drove me away from OU in the first place, though I will return someday.
Auto-rain and Auto-sun are unique to the uber metagame by way of Kyogre and Groudon respectively. This opens the door to so many various Pokemon like Kingdra or Exeggutor, or also to the rather common dual-weather Scarf-Palkia that boasts Surf and Fire Blast on the same set. There are so many viable options in these two aforementioned weather conditions, too many for me to rattle off without boring, you, the reader, which I hopefully haven’t done yet xD.
There is a whole new wrinkle to Baton Pass teams in ubers that cannot be ignored. Mew. Mew is the unquestioned elite Baton Passer in all of Pokemon; it can pass +2 in any stat or it can pass Bulk Up/Calm Mind (not to mention it has Taunt + Hypnosis). Couple this with maddog’s “signature” Lopunny or any other outstanding Baton Passer and you are on your way to a surprisingly successful team, though beware of pseudo-hazers. If you think getting Smeargle an Ingrain in OU is hard, try it in ubers… same goes for switching in Mr. Mime.
Though I am not against Stealth Rock in any way, I know there are plenty of Stealth Rock haters out there. In the fast-paced uber environment, Stealth Rock is still near omni-present, but remember that there are plenty more viable ways of stopping it in ubers as opposed to OU. I’m sure everyone recalls the Dual-Screen Taunt+SR Deoxys-s who recently had his reign of OU supremacy come to a halt… Use him in ubers! He is still an excellent choice as a lead Pokemon. There are other popular Deoxys-s sets such as the Counter + Mirror Coat + Taunt variant, but I will let you explore those options on your own. The point here though, is that Stealth Rock-less battles are much easier to come by in ubers. By the way, Deoxys-s is not the only way to stop the Rocks from going up, but again, you can explore this all for yourself.
And on a lesser note, to all of you Smogonites that miss your beloved Garchomp… he is there in ubers too and is still a fine choice. Check out this RMT if you don’t believe me. I’m sure ManiaclyRasist won’t mind me sticking this in here:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36631
EDIT: Don't comment in the link shown above. It was accidentally bumped. It is from February. Please don't bother with it lol. Should have mentioned this earlier.
There is another Pokemon world out there! Enjoy the ubers!
The uber metagame has been seemingly forgotten in the transition to Platinum.
Hopefully this thread will encourage some of you to begin the “dive” into ubers. I will try and express why I believe it to be in the best interest of all of you to attempt this tier, that for whatever reason, is consistently frowned upon by much of the competitive community.
I will be honest. I have not played ubers myself for all that long, though in my short experience, I have learned a lot and have truly enjoyed Pokemon more than in the past when I played strictly OU. Allow me to explain.
The uber metagame is one that requires more strategy than OU, or even UU for that matter. This is because a player can ill afford to make a single mistake, lest they are put at a large disadvantage; such disadvantages are often impossible to overcome given the presence of such immensely powerful threats like Deoxys-A and Mewtwo. In the uber metagame, bar the occasional (yet inevitable) hax, the better player wins.
As alluded to earlier, many OU battlers can gain a lot of knowledge by simply "getting their feet wet" in ubers. There are new moves to learn, and obviously more threats to be aware of. From my experience, it seems that the tier is centralized around executing a strategy rather than slapping together 6 glass cannons and hoping to wreck stuff, or simply using ObiStall. Granted, many of the best OU teams are centered around executing a certain strategy, though not always. It is the things like these that drove me away from OU in the first place, though I will return someday.
Auto-rain and Auto-sun are unique to the uber metagame by way of Kyogre and Groudon respectively. This opens the door to so many various Pokemon like Kingdra or Exeggutor, or also to the rather common dual-weather Scarf-Palkia that boasts Surf and Fire Blast on the same set. There are so many viable options in these two aforementioned weather conditions, too many for me to rattle off without boring, you, the reader, which I hopefully haven’t done yet xD.
There is a whole new wrinkle to Baton Pass teams in ubers that cannot be ignored. Mew. Mew is the unquestioned elite Baton Passer in all of Pokemon; it can pass +2 in any stat or it can pass Bulk Up/Calm Mind (not to mention it has Taunt + Hypnosis). Couple this with maddog’s “signature” Lopunny or any other outstanding Baton Passer and you are on your way to a surprisingly successful team, though beware of pseudo-hazers. If you think getting Smeargle an Ingrain in OU is hard, try it in ubers… same goes for switching in Mr. Mime.
Though I am not against Stealth Rock in any way, I know there are plenty of Stealth Rock haters out there. In the fast-paced uber environment, Stealth Rock is still near omni-present, but remember that there are plenty more viable ways of stopping it in ubers as opposed to OU. I’m sure everyone recalls the Dual-Screen Taunt+SR Deoxys-s who recently had his reign of OU supremacy come to a halt… Use him in ubers! He is still an excellent choice as a lead Pokemon. There are other popular Deoxys-s sets such as the Counter + Mirror Coat + Taunt variant, but I will let you explore those options on your own. The point here though, is that Stealth Rock-less battles are much easier to come by in ubers. By the way, Deoxys-s is not the only way to stop the Rocks from going up, but again, you can explore this all for yourself.
And on a lesser note, to all of you Smogonites that miss your beloved Garchomp… he is there in ubers too and is still a fine choice. Check out this RMT if you don’t believe me. I’m sure ManiaclyRasist won’t mind me sticking this in here:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36631
EDIT: Don't comment in the link shown above. It was accidentally bumped. It is from February. Please don't bother with it lol. Should have mentioned this earlier.
There is another Pokemon world out there! Enjoy the ubers!