Yes! The above post just proves that a Sunflora evo is perfect! Honestly, the thing was made to be a fire type...
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CAP 3 CAP 3 - Part 3 (New Evolution/New Pokemon Discussion)
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sunflora isnt the only pokemon that actually needs a good evo, magcargo can fit as well on that desription, the idea isnt that crazy, the lava when cold is a good place where plants can grow, and can also get clorophyl as an ability because of the symbiosis between the plants and magcargo
I thought this discussion was dead when I left, guess not. I really admire the frantic struggle between whenever it’s a new species or new evolution and it’s great to see people really supporting their cause, but we can’t stay on this subject for far too long. We have other subjects to go and beside there is talk about CaP running another project called C.A.P.E (Create a Pokemon evolution) being made. If you want to participate and/or be it's topic leader you can go and ask Doug. Now...since this project needs to move on, I suppose it's up to me to make the decision and I hereby say that new pokemon wins out this time.
Why are the people wanting new evos being called fanboys. First a create a pokemon project is the epitome of a fanboy project to start with.
Also there really is nothing more fanboyish then giving a pokemon two of the best offensive stabs, 1 base speed more then the standard 120 and every move you can possible think of(spikes,superpower,earthpower,fire fang) when they don't fit.
Scylant is the definition of a fanboy pokemon. Not something like a sunflora evo which already has a stat placement to benefit a fire/grass typing and its whole gimmick is based around the sun.
Anyway back on topic i think the amount of people who want evo's (over 40% in both the last two projects) is too big not to atleast open a topic and serious discussion on running this "C.A.P.E" you mentioned.
Also there really is nothing more fanboyish then giving a pokemon two of the best offensive stabs, 1 base speed more then the standard 120 and every move you can possible think of(spikes,superpower,earthpower,fire fang) when they don't fit.
Scylant is the definition of a fanboy pokemon. Not something like a sunflora evo which already has a stat placement to benefit a fire/grass typing and its whole gimmick is based around the sun.
Anyway back on topic i think the amount of people who want evo's (over 40% in both the last two projects) is too big not to atleast open a topic and serious discussion on running this "C.A.P.E" you mentioned.
Dormin~ I saw and read Latinoheat's argument on the last page and is still thinking about it. I wanted to state the fact that we can't stay on this subject forever. I would like it if we could make a unanimous decision on this, but it seem unlikely so that where my call come in.
Latinoheat~ I'm assume it most refer to all whom react to these kind of discussion with their heart rather than their brain but that's just me. If you want more detail and the ability to share your opinion on the "C.A.P.E" project, post here: Page where it talks about it
Latinoheat~ I'm assume it most refer to all whom react to these kind of discussion with their heart rather than their brain but that's just me. If you want more detail and the ability to share your opinion on the "C.A.P.E" project, post here: Page where it talks about it
I will post in their to discuss it at a later date.
In regards to this topic i see no harm in keeing this open for longer, clearly there is still alot of people wanting to defend and discuss both arguments and at the end of the day the more discussion and thought out this is the better the pokemon should be.
If keeping momenturn is what your worried about, the discussion clearly has alot of momentum.
Add to that even though revenank took 12 weeks to make,there was still alot of interest in that project going in to probably the 8th- 9th week, the combination of going too long and the fact that the last parts were less "important" ideas such as height and weight, is what attributed to the slump in the last few weeks.
The guide that has been constructed states 5 weeks at most, what is a couple more days gonna hurt when we took 12 weeks on the mummy, when interest was still their in the 9th week.
In regards to this topic i see no harm in keeing this open for longer, clearly there is still alot of people wanting to defend and discuss both arguments and at the end of the day the more discussion and thought out this is the better the pokemon should be.
If keeping momenturn is what your worried about, the discussion clearly has alot of momentum.
Add to that even though revenank took 12 weeks to make,there was still alot of interest in that project going in to probably the 8th- 9th week, the combination of going too long and the fact that the last parts were less "important" ideas such as height and weight, is what attributed to the slump in the last few weeks.
The guide that has been constructed states 5 weeks at most, what is a couple more days gonna hurt when we took 12 weeks on the mummy, when interest was still their in the 9th week.
Thought you declared that 12 hours ago?
A discussion on it started over 9 hours ago in the process thread.
And how much of a majority should we have? The reasons these polls are timed is because you'll never be able to convince the majority of people once they cast their vote. This means the final vote likely won't change by more than 5% either way, and it could go back and forth for weeks as people debate it.
On the last CAP, I believe Ghost beat out Grass by something like 53% against 47% or something ridiculously close. Should it have kept going? No, it needed to continue. The longer the polls are delayed on a given project, the longer until the next one can start. It's why we developed the timetable/calendar.
Except nothing new will come from it. People's votes aren't changing, it's just being debated by the same people. It's not doing anything constructive to this particular project.
Momentum towards creating CAPE, perhaps, but not towards this particular Pokemon.
The entire point of the timetable was to get this done. People don't want to spend three months working on one Pokemon when three can be done in that time. Just because Revenankh took that long doesn't mean it was a good thing that it did.
the fact i was making was that momentum will not be lost if this is kept open an extra day, when momentum wasn't really lost when something took 9 weeks.
There is hardly anything in 1 or 2 days.
I meant a seperate topic for the CAPE as well.
There is hardly anything in 1 or 2 days.
I meant a seperate topic for the CAPE as well.
If it slows down at all due to unnecessary extensions, momentum is lost. There's been *3* votes in 14 hours. Leaving this open another day might get another 5 votes, if any. There is no point to doing so. It only delays the Project as a whole, and in the end the result will be the same.
If you want to create a new evolution, go post in the Process thread why it would be beneficial to have concurrent CAP and CAPE Projects. Do more than a single sentence as well, because just saying you want it with no support is not a good way to convince anyone it should be done.
how can i offer any more support then you know already saying that going on 45% wanted a new evolution in both the last projects.
I did, but magically the topic wouldn't die and beside I stated that anyone who have any objection towards my ruling better speak up.
There should be a reason to object beyond just "I don't like it", otherwise we'll never move on. Declare the vote over, move on to the next, and point those who want CAPE to show their support and ideas on how to go about it in the process thread.
Like I said before, in 14 hours there have been 3 votes, and they followed the current trend of 2 new, 1 evo. The current voters' choices won't change in any meaningful amount, and neither will the results.
Here's the way I've been doing it on poll threads:
As soon as a new thread starts, I close the old one. We don't need people necroposting in closed polls. I would dearly LOVE to close this thing, considering that it has been stale for a long time. But, I don't want to do that until the new poll is created. That's up to the TL.
GT -- If you plan to wait until every person has finished with the discussion, we will never get this thing done. In click polls, there is a fixed close time for the poll. We need to do the same thing with bold voting threads. Set a time at the outset, and then follow it. Don't hang around waiting for a consensus that will never come.
As soon as a new thread starts, I close the old one. We don't need people necroposting in closed polls. I would dearly LOVE to close this thing, considering that it has been stale for a long time. But, I don't want to do that until the new poll is created. That's up to the TL.
GT -- If you plan to wait until every person has finished with the discussion, we will never get this thing done. In click polls, there is a fixed close time for the poll. We need to do the same thing with bold voting threads. Set a time at the outset, and then follow it. Don't hang around waiting for a consensus that will never come.
you may as well close this.
I can't wait to see one of the best offensive typings going to waste, on some shitty wall with only a few useful resistances and a stealth rock weakness.
I can't wait to see one of the best offensive typings going to waste, on some shitty wall with only a few useful resistances and a stealth rock weakness.
First off, I'm already in the making of the next topic. Second, I'm aware that most of these should have a time resist on them, but that's my failure to uphold them. Next polls will have a set times on when it's open and closes. These last few poll have been done sloppy in terms of closing them or knowing when a option has won but no more.
I agree with LatinoHeat that the Sunflora family could do with an evolution. However, and I'm sure this will come up in later threads, I'm not sure giving it a flat 10-point boost to all its stats is necessarily the way to go. For one thing, its Speed is 30, which means it ties with a bunch of other things for third-slowest fully-evolved Pokémon. Giving it 10 points of Speed will hurt it in Trick Room and won't make that much difference outside of Trick Room, even with Chlorophyll.
Although there may be a second poll for this, I'd like to see it be a divergent Sunkern evo. If it has Fire/Grass typing, better stat distribution, and a bunch of Fire moves to go along with its Grass moves, it may not even need a higher base stat total than Sunflora.
Although there may be a second poll for this, I'd like to see it be a divergent Sunkern evo. If it has Fire/Grass typing, better stat distribution, and a bunch of Fire moves to go along with its Grass moves, it may not even need a higher base stat total than Sunflora.
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