The main objective is not to bluff for CB, but to abuse his scouting capabilities early on in the game so that you'll know what you're dealing with later before you try to sweep. A full-on bluff won't work twice and probably not at all if they notice him not doing quite as much as he should. Regardless, once you see Scizor, your response is going to be mostly the same in any situation: 1) switch to a check to take the predicted move, or 2) switch to a counter to block him no matter what he does.I like this idea alot.
My only question would be is it smart to run Lefties on a SD+U-Turn Scizor?
I ask this for 2 reasons:
1. If you are trying to bluff a CB scizor as long as possible, then after some residual or other damage, the opponent will discover leftovers recovery. 9 times out of ten, leftovers on a Scizor means it has SD in OU play. And unless your opponent is new or stupid (which youd win anyway), he/she will know that too. So does it not defeat the purpose of bluff?
2. Even if you don't buy into the above point, there is still an argument to be made that there are other items which are simply better than leftovers anyway, which the ADDITION of being better for bluffing CB. Items like Metal Coat, SilverPowder, Occa Berry, or even Muscle Band.
It has a lot more to go up against, and it most definitely won't Bullet Punch and U-Turn everything up the ass as effortlessly like it used to. It's not like he'll drop that much, anyways...like the others said, Scizor will likely remain a very legitimate threat in OU.Why do people think Scizor is going down in usage when his typing allows him to still be able to switch into dragons? Bug/steel is still great typing.
In gen 4 I used the same set with both Lefties and Expert Belt and I found that bluffing a CB set usually worked better. Everyone assumes that any Scizor that doesn't show recovery or Life Orb damage is a CB because there's no reason to use anything else. The surprise factor was what got me the most kills.The main objective is not to bluff for CB, but to abuse his scouting capabilities early on in the game so that you'll know what you're dealing with later before you try to sweep. A full-on bluff won't work twice and probably not at all if they notice him not doing quite as much as he should. Regardless, once you see Scizor, your response is going to be mostly the same in any situation: 1) switch to a check to take the predicted move, or 2) switch to a counter to block him no matter what he does.
Leftovers was there because it's just really useful for a bulky sweeper to have, especially one you're counting on to level the playing field for you all throughout the match.
It's a gimmick set at best. True, it cripples the enemy, but there are more effective ways of crippling a sweeper if you really need to that badly. Also, heatran rapes you even harder now as you have no fighting moves.How would a "fling" Scizor work?
Scizor@light Ball
252 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 4 Spe
Adamant: Technician
-Fling
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Bug Bite
Fling Light ball is a 100% accurate paralasys move crippling many sweepers, swords dance on the switch out and wreck some shit up.
Well, if your going to use fling, Scizor DOES have access to acrobat, so It'd be a shame to waste that. A 110 BP move coming off 130 Base Attack is nothing to scoff at.How would a "fling" Scizor work?
Scizor@light Ball
252 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 4 Spe
Adamant: Technician
-Fling
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Bug Bite
Fling Light ball is a 100% accurate paralasys move crippling many sweepers, swords dance on the switch out and wreck some shit up.
Also, what would you drop for it on that set? Bug Bite is stronger after STAB, Bullet Punch is pretty much obligatory for any Scizor, and SD is going to be a lot more useful when you're forcing switches.Well, if your going to use fling, Scizor DOES have access to acrobat, so It'd be a shame to waste that. A 110 BP move coming off 130 Base Attack is nothing to scoff at.
The problem is that Fling takes away two important things for Scizor. 1 is a good item, and another is a valuable moveslot.
So, i would never say never, but Fling just doesn't seem to cut it.
Well obviously nothing outclasses Scizor in the sense that its SD and Powerful BP is exclusive.tell me what outclass scizor as SD bullet punch user.
Nothing. yeah seriously. And i can say most people say SD zor work really well this meta and i have try it myself.
That doesn't mean that any of them can take Scizor's spot on a team. Lucario is the only one on that list with priority of any sort, and it's both less bulky and less powerful. Haxorus just isn't that great in the first place, Excadrill needs sand, and Terrakion and Landlos have completely different typing and STABs. The same goes for Haxorus of course, as well.Well obviously nothing outclasses Scizor in the sense that its SD and Powerful BP is exclusive.
But there are better Swords Dance Boosters with greater destructive prowess than scizor. Terakion, lucario, excadril, Haxorus, and Landorus to name a few.
the problem is that too many things resist or don't really care about anything scizor can throw at them, and kill him.
let alone how many resist BP.
That doesn't really matter because SD Bullet Punch got a lot worse this gen. Even more top threats in OU resist Bullet Punch than last gen. Doryuuzu, Thundurus, Nattorei, Burungeru, Skarmory, Forry, Rotom, Heatran, Kerudio (when it's released), etc. Teams without multiple Steel resists are pretty rare. Not to mention all of the Bulk Up users that make revenge killing harder for Scizor. Not to mention all of the random things carrying Fire moves to deal with Nattorei in this metagame. Nothing really cares about Bullet Punch anymore except like...Terakion.tell me what outclass scizor as SD bullet punch user.
Nothing. yeah seriously.